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"Cryptoengineer" wrote in message
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> On 4/8/2024 7:45 AM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Cryptoengineer" wrote in message
>> news:uujsju$if7$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 4/3/2024 9:07 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>> Are you saying they can't act to defend themselves from terrorists,
>>>>> that
>>>>> such criminals should remain at large to continue their rein of
>>>>> terror?
>>>>>
>>>>> So tell me, how would you go about dealing with these terrorists?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because allowing them to continue.. isn't a valid option.
>>>>
>>>> And killing civilians doesn't help matters.
>>>>
>>>> You've got crazy idealogues on both sides promoting the war. Neither
>>>> Netanyahu nor Haniyeh care anything about peace, they just want to win
>>>> (whatever that means to them). Then you have thousands of innocent
>>>> people
>>>> on both sides being caught in the crossfire. It's not the fault of any
>>>> of those people and they don't deserve what is happening to them.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a solution to this... but I also think that continuing to
>>>> toss bombs isn't going to fix anything. And I think that if people
>>>> keep
>>>> doing the same thing they have been doing for the past sixty years that
>>>> they will get the same result that they have been getting for the past
>>>> sixty years.
>>>> --scott
>>>
>>> I completely agree that Israel doesn't have to continue to tolerate
>>> Hamas lobbing rockets into Israel. No nation could, and it has a right
>>> to try to stop it. Certainly the invasion and massacre must be
>>> responded to.
>>>
>>> Actions speak louder than words.
>>>
>>> When I look at the Netanyahu government's actions, as opposed to
>>> its public statements, I get a strong impression that there is an
>>> unspoken agenda to force the entire Arab population to leave Gaza
>>> altogether, by making the place uninhabitable.
>>
>> Well, they have to deal with the terrorists and that means taking steps
>> to do so. Yes, that means there is a fallout for the civilian population.
>>
>>> Generally speaking, these actions are those that harm and punish
>>> the civilian population, rather than targeting Hamas specifically.
>>
>> Typical in any warfare. To deny supplies to the combat forces usually
>> requires you to deny supplies to everyone.. otherwise the military forces
>> will simply get their supplies from the population.
>>
>>> They include:
>>>
>>> * Cutting off food and water to the entire population. This
>>> in particular supports my concern - it an extremely blunt weapon.
>>> * Use of indiscriminate long distance weapons - missiles,
>>> bombs, and artillery, which take down entire buildings.
>>> * Deliberate demolition of cleared buildings.
>>
>> Well, when the enemy is using them as bases, shelter and points for
>> attack.. if they are empty, then removing them denies any use by the
>> enemy. If you don't think that isn't a regular part of warfare.. then
>> you're sadly ignorant.
>
> War has Laws.
Yes, but terrorists do not. By their actions Hamas has violated every rule
of warfare.
> The denial of food and water to non-combatants as a weapon of war is
> a war crime.
Except this isn't a war. It's a police action against criminals..
specifically terrorists.
> Note that this was written in 2001, and is not a reaction to the
> situation in Gaza.
Doesn't matter... the matter in Gaza isn't a war and thus doesn't apply.
> The Netanyahu government is engaged in war crimes.
How can they been committing war crimes where there is no war?
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