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On Mon, 27 May 2024, WolfFan wrote:
> On May 27, 2024, D wrote
> (in article<6c70bb08-bf62-3bf8-1e39-25eca1609d63@example.net>):
>
>>
>> On Sun, 26 May 2024, WolfFan wrote:
>>
>>> On May 26, 2024, D wrote
>>> (in article):
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 25 May 2024, Bernard Peek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-05-25, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ehh incorrect. I lived there and detected no such thing. Bird-flu isn't
>>>>>> even a topic in the news and no one where I live talks about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been found in cattle in several parts of the US and there have been
>>>>> two
>>>>> cases of transmission from cattle to people. So far no cases of
>>>>> person-to-person transmission.
>>>>
>>>> 2 out of 8 billion. I am so scared! ;) Call me again if we reach one in
>>>> two and until then, I won't be bothered.
>>>>
>>>> Corona, by the way, was about as dangerous for my age group as driving a
>>>> car. That figure came from the government, so all hysteria was just
>>>> nonsense.
>>>
>>> one of my nieces died of covid. She was 25. She died before there were any
>>> vaccines.
>>
>> Ok. Sad, but there are people who die of bananas, and we don't ban
>> bananas. In that age group, corona was about as dangerous as driving a
>> car, so not justifiable to close down the world for a flu.
>
> bloody hell:
>
> 1. covid-19 ain’t ‘a flu’
>
> 2. the ’Spanish’ flu of 1918, spread from the US because of an idiot
> American general who didn’t want ‘a flu’ to prevent deploying American
> troops to Europe, called the Spanish Flu because it was first reported in
> Spanish newspapers, as American, British, French, and German newspapers were
> made to shut up for reasons of denying the enemy info during a world war,
> killed more people than the fighting in WWI. And that was ‘a flu’.
>
> You’re radically ignorant about epidemiology, and proud of it.
>>
>>
>>> None, zero, of the rest of the family, and there’s a LOT of us, had any
>>> problems whatsoever with the vaccine.
>>
>> I've heard of many who had problems with vaccines.
>
> I’ve seen dead bodies because idiots refused to vaccinate.
>> Also note the double
>> standard. Anyone who died 30 days after corona was a corona victim. If
>> this would have been applied to the vaccines, you'd see even higher death
>> rates.
>
> Bullshit. that’s not how epidemiology works. You are, again, radically
> ignorant and incredibly proud of that.
>>
>>
>>> Note that I do not work for any government. I was one of the driving forces
>>> behind the vaccination policy at work: no vaccine? Cool. Stay out of the
>>> building. If you can remote work, carry on. If you can’t, either get
>>
>> In my company we had the reverse. If you're vaccinated, stay at home. On
>> the other hand, I Don't hire pro-government hysterical corona people, so
>> it was pretty much a non-issue. And no one died, which shows that unless
>> you're old, it was mostly psychosomatic.
>
> Bullshit. You can’t possibly enforce that. With us, we merely request to
> see the vaccination card. No card? You better have a good reason. “I lost
> it” means “get a duplicate”. “I don’t want to get vaccinated” is
> not a good reason. All that would be necessary for someone who got vaccinated
> to keep working there (God knows why they’d want to hang around with
> idiots) is to simply not show you their card. How would you find out that
> they lied?
>
> It’s not just bullshit, it’s transparently obvious bullshit which NEVER
> HAPPENED. You’re not just an idiot, you think that everyone’s as stupids
> as you are.
>>
>>
>>> vaccinated or get another job. This is a right to work state, we can fire
>>> you
>>
>> Let me correct that... let the government foricbly inject you, or else we
>> let you starve.
>
> not the government, idiot. I got my vaccinations from Walgreens. A private
> company.
>>
>>
>> That is similar policies to nazi-germany and the soviet union, just so you
>> know.
>
> Bullshit.
>>
>>
>> If the vaccines work, there's no need to be afraid of un-vaccinated, or if
>> you are, you are basically admitting that the vaccines don't work, and
>> then they are just a charade.
>
> Bullshit. Not all can take vaccinations. Vaccinations are not 100% effective.
> If you had even slight knowledge of epidemiology you would know this.
> You’re breathtakingly ignorant, and proud of it.
>>
>>
>>> for any reason we want. (Ron DeSatan tried to set things up so that idiots
>>> couldn’t, officially, be fired for not getting a vaccination; however,
the
>>> kind of idiot who refused to vacvinate usually had done something in the
>>> past
>>> which we could have fired him for but didn’t. Officially, that’s why he
>>> was fired, and we have the paperwork going back to before the pandemic to
>>> prove it. Kiss my ass, DeSatan.)
>>>
>>> You’re perfectly free to not get vaccinated. You’re not free to not get
>>> vaccinated and work here.
>>
>> Likewise and reverse. No work for you if you are vaccinated at my company.
>> And this is why a libertarian world is the only way to peace.
>
> Bullshit. you can’t possibly identify those who got vaccinated. I can
> identify those who did not. Typically they will self-identify; that is how I
> found out about two anti-vaxxers who were visiting my house, one of whom had
> to be physically ejected and tried to call the cops. They were pig-ignorant
> buffoons, and loud about it.
>>
>>
>> Also note the irony, that in my world you are free to vaccinate yourself
>> if you want, do heavy drugs etc. but in your world, I must subject myself
>> to medical experiments to be able to participate.
>>
>> I think that's a pretty authoritarian and sh*tty world view, but I'm glad
>> that you are not the president and I'm glad that the legal system is so
>> full of loop holes that I was able to travel without a mask and meet the
>> people I could after a bit of legal threatening and arguing. =)
>>
>>> Perhaps those who passed the Right To Work laws (hint: not Democrats)
should
>>> have thought things through before ramming the laws through.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I say, protect the old if they want it and let the rest live their lives
>>>> as normal, which is what eventually sweden did, which was proven to be the
>>>> right way. Not limiting peoples freedoms and becoming authoritarian.
>>>
>>> public health is about the public im general. Not you specifically.
>>
>> I don't agree.
>
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