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   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   Ubiquitous   wrote:   
   >In article , doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:   
   >>Ubiquitous   wrote:   
   >>>In article , mike@xenocyte.com wrote:   
   >>>>anim8rfsk  wrote:   
   >>>>> Arthur Lipscomb  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>> The TARDIS was there.  It never left.  But I'm not sure why Ruby   
   >>>>>> couldn't get inside.  Has the Doctor still not given her a key or was   
   >>>>>> it magically locked?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> She had her key and tried to use it, but it didn't work. She yelled that   
   >>>>> the doctor had locked the tardis from the inside. But if that's what she   
   >>>>> thought I don't know why she wandered off.   
   >>>   
   >>>Yeah, that's not how keys work!   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>> leaving Ruby to fend for herself. Her return to London is shadowed by   
   >>>>>>> the persistent black-robed figure, leading to a chase that's as   
   >>>>>>> psychological as it is physical. The narrative takes a dramatic turn   
   >>>>>>> when Ruby's mum flees, and Kate Lethbridge-Stewart of UNIT steps in to   
   >>>>>>> offer assistance.   
   >>>>>>> Despite their efforts, UNIT is forced to retreat from the enigmatic   
   >>>>>>> adversary, emphasising the formidable nature of this new foe.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The episode cleverly spans several timelines, with Ruby engaging   
   >>>>>>> in an election campaign in 2046 for the Albion Party. The political   
   >>>>>>> subplot adds depth, presenting a future where a war hawk Prime   
   >>>>>>> Ministerial candidate stirs controversy.   
   >>>>>>> Ruby, on her own will, takes photographs of the black-robed woman   
   >>>>>>> at a victory celebration in Cardiff underscores the persistent   
   >>>>>>> and haunting presence of this figure.   
   >>>>>>> As the black-robed figure reveals something to the PM elect, the PM   
   >>>>>>> elect suddenly resigns.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The climax of the episode is both poignant and revealing.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I liked the climax, but I don't know how revealing it actually was.   
   >>>>>> From my perspective it was left intentionally vague, but I am very   
   >>>>>> interesting in different takes on the ending.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I found it completely unrevealing. I have no idea why anything that   
   >>>>> happened happened or what happens at the end. Is she stuck in a loop? Or   
   >>>>> did her older self just vaporize? If so, what was the point of having   
   >>>>> her say how young she felt?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> I get that it was Ruby all along and there was a timeloop or branched   
   >>>>>> timeline aspect to it all.  But it simply Ruby from the future doesn't   
   >>>>>> explain all the super natural aspects of what was happening.  For me   
   >>>>>> that part was left very much unexplained.  The circle being or not   
   >>>>>> being broken really isn't an explanation for where the magic originated   
   >>>>>> or why Unit was affected by it in spite of their precautions.  But I   
   >>>>>> still thought it was a great episode.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> We have no idea how Ruby scares people off or even why she does that   
   >>>>> those people are allies   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> In 2086, Ruby returns to Wales, now an elderly woman in a care home.   
   >>>>>>> This poignant twist reveals the full circle of her journey,   
   >>>>>>> a stark reminder of the passage of time and the inescapable nature   
   >>>>>>> of her fate. Ruby dies and the blak-robed figure   
   >>>>>>> is Ruby is the point of death.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The narrative then loops back to 2024,   
   >>>>>>> where the Doctor and Ruby work together to unbreak the circle,   
   >>>>>>> providing a satisfying and hopeful resolution to the episode's   
   >>>>>>> complex temporal tapestry.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> This episode of Doctor Who masterfully blends elements of mystery,   
   >>>>>>> suspense, and political intrigue, anchored by strong   
   >>>>>>> performances and a tightly woven plot. It's a testament   
   >>>>>>> to the show's enduring ability to explore the depths   
   >>>>>>> of time and human experience, leaving viewers eagerly   
   >>>>>>> anticipating the next adventure in the TARDIS.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 5/10   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> 5 out of 10 seems a bit low for an episode you seemed to like.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'd give it an eight except for the ending which I’d give a zero.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>On another review thread I posted:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>This could have been a wonderful mystical story. It was well acted and   
   >>>>directed and held the attention from beginning to end - but the story is   
   >>>>just complete bollocks. I don't know how to rate it - going to have to   
   >>>>split the difference between its dramatic quality (8/10) and its plot   
   >>>>value (0/10) and give it 4   
   >>>   
   >>>If you watch it a second time (horrors!), both scores will be lower because   
   >>>youy'll catch all the stupid things you missed the first time.   
   >>   
   >>I try to be generous!   
   >>   
   >>Gatwa is 2 steps better than Whittaker.   
   >   
   >That's very generous! LOL!   
   >   
      
   Whittaker was an absolute disaster!   
      
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   >Let's go Brandon!   
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