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   Message 136,152 of 137,311   
   Cryptoengineer to Joel Polowin   
   Re: Vancean logic   
   10 Aug 24 14:31:50   
   
   From: petertrei@gmail.com   
      
   On 8/10/2024 12:32 PM, Joel Polowin wrote:   
   > "Let’s give votes to all children in this country, but let’s give   
   > control over those votes to the parents of those children.  When you go   
   > to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power —   
   > you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic   
   > republic — than people who don’t have kids.  Let’s face the   
   consequences   
   > and the reality: If you don’t have as much of an investment in the   
   > future of this country, maybe you shouldn’t get nearly the same voice.   
   > Of course, part and parcel with this is that convicted felons would have   
   > to lose their children." — Jack Daniels Vance   
      
   When I saw the thread title, I thought that, in this group, it would be   
   about John (Jack") *Holbrook* Vance, the SF author.   
      
   That said, the notion that the power of the franchise maybe shouldn't   
   be evenly distributed is a long standing one. Universal franchise in   
   the US is only about 100 years old, and even Heinlein proposed such   
   in Starship Troopers.   
      
   Even today, the Electoral College gives residents of some states   
   much more electoral power than others. A Wyoming voter's vote counts   
   more than 3x as much as Californian's in electing a President.   
      
   That's a worse option than giving parents extra votes, imho.   
      
   Regardless of that, Jack Vance the VP candidate seems to be   
   a horrible, very bad choice, and even Trump seems to have   
   buyer's remorse.   
      
   pt   
      
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