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|    Evelyn C. Leeper to All    |
|    MT VOID, 11/22/24 -- Vol. 43, No. 21, Wh    |
|    24 Nov 24 10:20:54    |
      [continued from previous message]              knowledge, been used to specify a period of time rather than a       length of time.              Instead of having a fixed point from which an event is dated, the       Romans used a variety of methods, the most common being saying who       were the consuls in that year. The Greeks used battles and other       major events (e.g., "three years after the Battle of Salamis"),       and the Romans copied this as well.              As for the placement of the start of the year. the Romans       initially placed it at March 1 (in the sense that the consuls took       office that day). But they moved it to January 1 when the empire       expanded to include Spain. Why? Well, when the empire was more       compact, the consuls could take office on March 1 and be in the       field in time for the "battle season". But when the empire got       larger, the consuls needed more time to get to the far reaches,       and so moved the date back to January 1. (And then it was moved       to March 25 in 1155 and it wasn't changed back in the British       Empire until to 1752, when the Gregorian calendar was adopted.       However, January 1 was often celebrated as the start of some new       year as early as the 13th century.)              Ironically, this reason for the Roman change in the start of the       new year is strongly tied to the reason that the inauguration of       President of the United States was moved from March 4 to January       20, but in reverse. The original date was to allow for travel to       the capital, particularly difficult during the winter. January 20       became a viable date that eliminated a long lame-duck period, and       it was changed in 1937, after roads and railroads improved and       even air travel was possible.              Feeney also discusses the concept of "anniversary". Roman dating       was based on the nones, the ides, and the calends, But rather than       counting from the start of the month, these were based more on the       end, and given the varying lengths of the months, this led to some       confusion when Julius Caesar introduced his calendar. The ides       was the middle date of a month, the nones was the ninth day before       the ides (counting the ides as a day, so we would say the eighth       day before the ides), and the calends was the first day of the       month.              But dates were calculated backward from these markers, so       something would be described as happening, e.g., "six days before       the nones".              So what happened when Rome switched from the "Republican calendar"       to the Julian one?              Well, let's look at the Julian-to-Gregorian switch first.       Washington was born on 11 February 1732 (Julian calendar).       Britain (and the United States) changed from the Julian calendar       to the Gregorian calendar in 1752. In 1753, the question arose as       to when his birthday fell: on 11 February (after only 354 days) or       on 22 February. The latter won out with Washington, although for       a while in the early days of the United States, many kept to 11       February to celebrate his birthday. But, as Feeney puts it, the       day (365 after the last) was chosen over the date (its "name").              For some 3% of the population, this was a moot point--if your       birthday was between 3 September and 13 September inclusive, you       couldn't celebrate it on that date in 1752 even if you wanted to.              Julius Caesar instituted his new calendar on 1 January 45 B.C.E.       Before that the Republican calendar year had four long months (31       days each) and eight short months (28 or 29 days each), which       added up to 355 days. Caesar added ten days, making several of       the short months 31 days long. But apparently he left the ides of       those months on the same date, i.e., the 13th, rather than moving       it to the 15th. So the dates in the first "half" of the month are       fine over the change, but the end of the month gets weird. The       example Feeney gives is Livia's birthday. It had been the "third       day before the Kalends of February" under the Republican calendar.       Since January was a short month of 29 days under the Republican       calendar, and that the counting was inclusive, this meant it had       been on January 28. Livia kept the date--the third day before the       Kalends of February--even though this was now January 30, a day       that didn't even exist before the new calendar. I guess my       question is whether, if the Romans counted the date backwards, the       concept of "January 28" was even considered as meaningful. After       all, we don't lay any importance on a day being "the third day       before the beginning of the next month".              So I guess Feeney got into the mathematical aspects after all.       [-ecl]              ===================================================================               Mark Leeper        mleeper@optonline.net                      War does not determine who is right--only who is left.        --Bertrand Russell              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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