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From: agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM
On 12/01/2025 12:11, The Last Doctor wrote:
> On 12/01/2025 09:42, John Hall wrote:
>> In message , Dimensional Traveler
>> writes
>>> On 1/11/2025 1:00 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>> On 1/11/2025 10:09 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>> John Hall wrote:
>>>>>>> In message , The True Doctor
>>>>>>> writes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven
>>>>>>>> Moffat
>>>>>>>> for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the
>>>>>>>> series
>>>>>>>> off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after
>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>> both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
>>>>>>>> killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
>>>>>>>> forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to
>>>>>>> rescue
>>>>>>> Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>> particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather.
>>>>>>> He could
>>>>>>> visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a
>>>>>>> message to
>>>>>>> be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago,
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> he'd be able to pick them up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have
>>>>>> brought
>>>>>> some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never
>>>>> time
>>>>> travel afterwards.
>>>>>
>>>> No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
>>>>
>>> Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
>>>
>>
>> I don't recall that a convincing explanation was ever given. I suspect
>> that even Steven Moffat didn't know. It was just that a way had to be
>> found to write out Amy and Rory, and this was what he came up with.
>>
>> [Least relevant ng trimmed]
>
> Moern Doctor Who seems to have adopted a sort of "probability collapse"
> model for time travel (except when the writers break their rules).
> Events are changeable, but become fixed for a specific observer once
> they are observed by that observer. (In addition to the "fixed points in
> time" that Time Lords perceive in some unexplained manner and are
> immutable - except when the writers choose to break their rules ["The
> Fires of Pompeii"]).
>
> In this case, once the Doctor had seen Amy and Rory's names on
> gravestones, their lifetimes were set. So although the Doctor COULD
> technically visit them again, he couldn't imperil them or take them off
> though time and space, for fear of unravelling the Web of Time.
>
> That's as close to a "reasonable" explanation as I can come up with.
>
How do they prove their identities to the US authorities? Do they get
deported? They can't prove they're British either. How do they obtain a
Green Card so they can work?
Why couldn't they just have said they wanted to start a family and
no-more sex in the space-time vortex, so the decide to live with Rory's
Dad until they can get a mortgage. Simple. Moffat, Chibnall, and Davies
are all degenerate retards.
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