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   Dorothy J Heydt to garym@mcgath.com   
   Re: MT VOID, 08/08/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 6,   
   10 Aug 25 19:24:14   
   
   From: djheydt@kithrup.com   
      
   In article <107ac24$1vbbm$1@dont-email.me>,   
   Gary McGath   wrote:   
   >> By that logic, as someone somewhere between atheist and agnostic,   
   >> I should be afraid of death.  I'm not. I first faced my real   
   >> chance of death a bit over twenty-five years ago and found it   
   >> didn't bother me at all. (The situation was prepping for bypass   
   >> surgery. Not all who undergo it survive.  My vastly bigger fear   
   >> was surviving with brain damage, which can also happen.)   
   >   
   >As I understand the terms, you can't really be "between" atheist and   
   >agnostic. To be atheistic means not to believe in a god. To be agnostic   
   >means to think the question of a deity's existence can't be resolved. An   
   >agnostic can believe that there's a god in spite of that lack of   
   >evidence, or not.   
   >   
   >The main point is that being atheistic doesn't require affirmatively   
   >believing in the non-existence of a god. Someone who has never been   
   >exposed to the idea of gods and hasn't come up with it independently   
   >would be an atheist.   
   >   
   >Personally, I don't fear death (the state of being dead), but I do fear   
   >dying (the process).   
      
   [Hal Heydt]   
      
   I don't know whether or not the existence of one or more deities   
   can be resolved.  I do know that, at least to my satisfaction, that   
   it has not been.  To date, despite great efforts by many people   
   over many centuries, there is a profound lack of evidence or   
   demonstration FOR the existence of a god or gods.  So far, this   
   makes the probability of such existence extremely low, so--at   
   present--my default position is that god(s) do not exist.   
      
   So....you tell me.  Does that make me an atheist or an   
   agnostic...or some fuzzy state in between the two that has not   
   yet had a quantum collapse?   
      
   As for death...  In the specific instance, I would never have   
   experienced dying.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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