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|    Evelyn C. Leeper to All    |
|    MT VOID, 09/12/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 11, Wh    |
|    14 Sep 25 07:48:10    |
      [continued from previous message]              Actually, some claim the Villarias version is already in public       domain because the copyright was not renewed. On the other hand,       the restored version may be covered by a separate copyright. On       the gripping hand, supposedly someone at the copyright office said       that a restoration cannot be copyrighted, because it's an effort       to return the film to its original state. [-ecl]              Scott adds further explanation:              The problems are first of all that some of the older silent films       are still in original copyright, but also that the restored and       reconstructed versions are individually copyrighted.              So... Boskone (or maybe Arisia, it's hard to tell) owns a 16mm       print of METROPOLIS which they bought from Blackhawk Films in the       seventies. The Blackhawk prints come with rights conveyed, so they       can show that to anyone without paying any royalties.              *But*... the new re-edited version of Metropolis sold by Kino       Lorber is still in copyright because of the restoration work...       and it is much easier to follow the plot in the restored version.       (It still has a lot of important stuff missing though.)              So, we can show a poor and fragmentary version but we can't show a       more complete and better-looking (but still far from original)       version without paying rights.              There *are* some old 16mm prints and public domain video transfers       of many great silent films, though. Some of them are available       through the Library of Congress although their impending budget       cuts may sink that. [-sd]              Gary adds:              Yes, "More than 95 years old, out of copyright" is a simple rule       that turns out not always to be true. The copyright boundaries for       restorations are often unsettled law. I've been stopped 3 times on       YouTube for alleged copyright violations on silent films with my       accompaniment. Twice the other side gave in; the other time I       didn't find it worthwhile to fight it.              In Europe there's the additional complication that movie       copyrights tend to be tied to individuals rather than       corporations, and the clock starts ticking only when the last       copyright owner dies. [-gmg]              Paul Dormer writes:              I've seen Eisenstein's ALEXANDER NEVSKY shown with a live orchestra       performing Prokoviev's score. [-pd]              Hal notes:              A couple of bits of trivia about that film...              The helm that Nevsky wears is a direct copy of the historical       original. They borrowed the actual helm from the Hermitage museum       to make the copy used in the film.              Prokoviev wrote the music for the battle on the ice before it was       filmed. The battle was choreographed to match the music. [-hh]              Paul also adds:              And they hired strong swimmers as extras--filmed in summer.              At about the same time, Arthur Bliss was hired to write the music       for THINGS TO COME. H. G. Wells was insistent that the music be       written first, but he reckoned without the final editing. The       result was some jarring key changes in the industrial montage, so       they got someone to dub tam-tam crashes to cover them. [-pd]              Evelyn adds:              Along those lines, Mark and I once went to an outdoor performance       of Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" at Monmouth Battlefield, with       live cannon. These days orchestras apparently use recordings of       live cannon when they are performing indoors. [-ecl]              ===================================================================              TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)              Okay, once again I'm punting the column and giving you another       chapter's-worth of commentary on MOBY-DICK. (Well, two, actually,       because Chapter 5's commentary is so short.)              CHAPTER 4: The Counterpane              Much has been made of: "Upon waking next morning about daylight, I       found Queequeg's arm thrown over me in the most loving and       affectionate manner. You had almost thought I had been his wife.       ... For though I tried to move his arm—unlock his bridegroom       clasp—yet, sleeping as he was, he still hugged me tightly, as       though naught but death should part us twain." And certainly       Melville does emphasize the similarity to a marriage bed (even to       the "till death do us part" aspect), but it is just as possible       that he does this to point out the incongruity of it all rather       than hint at a secret homosexual subtext.              Ishmael comes from a family in which he has a stepmother and hence       is a somewhat second-class child. This is similar to his Biblical       namesake, who was the "illegitimate" son of Abraham and his       servant Hagar. I put "illegitimate" in quotes because I am not       sure the word really expresses the connotations in Biblical times.       There was less stigma attached on men fathering children with       their servants or slaves, but those children were nonetheless       lower in status than those whose mother was married to their       father.              When Ishmael was sent to his room as a child, he feel asleep in       the afternoon, he later woke up and relates, "I opened my eyes,       and the before sun-lit room was now wrapped in outer darkness."       This is just one of *many* references to black, or darkness,       presumably to contrast with the whiteness of the whale. It is       worth noting that while Biblical references connect darkness and       blackness with evil, almost all the incidents of *actual* darkness       and blackness in the novel are either benign or positive. The       Spouter Inn is very dark, yet it provides a meal and a bed for       Ishmael. Queequeg is dark, yet he is portrayed almost entirely in       positive terms and is ultimately the means of Ishmael's salvation.              In the morning, Queequeg climbs naked under the bed where soon "he       was hard at work booting himself; though by no law of propriety       that I ever heard of, is any man required to be private when       putting on his boots. But Queequeg, do you see, was a creature in       the transition stage—neither caterpillar nor butterfly. He was       just enough civilized to show off his outlandishness in the       strangest possible manners. His education was not yet completed.       He was an undergraduate ... If he had not been a small degree       civilized, he very probably would not have troubled himself with       boots at all; but then, if he had not been still a savage, he       never would have dreamt of getting under the bed to put them on."       One of the themes in MOBY-DICK is transition—as the Pequod travels       further from home (and civilization), many of the crew undergo       transitions in the reverse of Queequeg's supposed direction.       Ishmael thinks of Queequeg as transitioning from primitive to       civilized, while the crew goes from civilized to primitive.              When Ishmael sees Queequeg shaving with a harpoon, he thinks,       "Queequeg, this is using Rogers's best cutlery with a vengeance.       Afterwards I wondered the less at this operation when I came to       know of what fine steel the head of a harpoon is made, and how       exceedingly sharp the long straight edges are always kept." One       might think Ishmael is referring to Wm. Rogers, who was a       silversmith starting around 1825, and whose name is currently a       trademark of the Oneida Company. (My parents' good silver was Wm.       Rogers.) But harpoon points are steel, not silver.              At breakfast, Ishmael sees "a brown and brawny company, with bosky       beards." "Bosky" means "having an abundance of bushes, shrubs, or       trees."              CHAPTER 5: Breakfast              Ledyard is John Ledyard, Connecticut-born explorer who traveled       with Captain Cook, crossed overland from Paris to Irkutsk and       back, and died on an African expedition. Mungo Park was a Scottish       explorer who made several expeditions into Africa. Each died on       one of his voyages.              [-ecl]                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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