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   Keith F. Lynch to Paul Dormer   
   Re: Four picnics in three locations on t   
   03 Oct 25 01:38:38   
   
   From: kfl@KeithLynch.net   
      
   Paul Dormer  wrote:   
   > I don't remember much of what was taught about the War of the Roses   
   > and the Civil Wars.   
      
   I've long thought it odd that in a UK context, "Civil Wars" refers   
   only to the wars between the Cavaliers and the Rounheads, although   
   England has had many others, including the aforementioned War of the   
   Roses.  And the so-called Anarchy (Stephen vs. Matilda).  And the   
   time a bastard successfully invaded.  And the Peasants' Revolt.  And   
   Peterloo.  And Boudica vs. the Romans, though strictly speaking there   
   was no England then.   
      
   I also think it's odd that "Edwardian" refers only to the reign of   
   Edward VII, so called because his name was Albert and there had been   
   nine (!) previous kings named Edward.  (The first three Edwards   
   weren't given numbers, but were called the Elder, the Martyr, and   
   the Confessor.)   
      
   It's also odd that British people are honorored, not by naming things   
   for them but for naming things for their *titles*.  ObFandom:  I've   
   been to Worldcons in cities named for Cecil Calvert, William Lamb,   
   and (virtual only) Arthur Wellesley.  I've never been to any of the   
   Worldcons in the city named for King James II.  Good luck trying to   
   figure out what cities I'm referring to.   
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