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   Message 137,022 of 137,311   
   Keith F. Lynch to Scott Dorsey   
   Re: [HeelvsBabyface] Doctor Who is OVER    
   23 Oct 25 17:20:05   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.drwho   
   From: kfl@KeithLynch.net   
      
   Scott Dorsey  wrote:   
   > I think the basic issue is that for several years, rasf people have   
   > been politely asking you to stop crossposting into here.  Not just   
   > one person, but a lot of people.  Not just recently, but for a long   
   > time now.  I think they expect politeness in return because this is   
   > a polite place, and we are not getting it.   
      
   Yes.  Thank you.  That's exactly what I meant.   
      
   Yes, people can use killfiles, but not everyone's software supports   
   them, and not everyone knows how to use them.  Rasff is, as I said,   
   intended for people who attend or run conventions, and for people   
   who publish or write for fanzines.  Not all such people are computer   
   experts.  If they find the free and open Internet overrun with   
   off-topic crap, they'll give up on it and move to a walled garden such   
   as Reddit or Facebook.  People unable to govern themselves soon find   
   themselves governed by tyrants.  Or by jailers.  Or by Elon Musk.   
      
   I've never been on Reddit or Facebook, but I did post rather a lot   
   to a Typepad blog.  But the whole of Typepad recently went out of   
   business.  All of my content, and all of those communities, are   
   just gone.   
      
   Some Dr. Who related posts might be on topic on rasff.  For instance   
   if someone who writes or acts for that show will be at next month's   
   Philcon.  But, thanks to more posts being dumped here about "The   
   Timeless Child" than about all conventions, fanzines, fans, and other   
   topics put together, any such post would almost certainly be blocked   
   by killfiles.  Or wouldn't be seen because everyone has given up on   
   trying to find anything at all in this newsgroup.   
      
   Most people, if they find themselves in a neighborhood with lots of   
   broken windows and lots of trash on the sidewalks don't go to a lot of   
   effort to clean up the place.  Instead, they simply decide they're in   
   a bad neighborhood, and go elsewhere.   
      
   I'm against censorship.  But communications can be destroyed, not   
   just by censorship, but also by being drowned out by vast amounts   
   of unwanted off-topic spam, scams, and slop.   
      
   For instance I recently had to await a phone call from a termite   
   exterminator.  If I didn't answer, he'd assume nobody was home, and   
   would not show up.  So I had to field over a hundred scam calls while   
   waiting for one legitimate call.  That reminded me why I can no longer   
   chat with friends on the phone.  They can't get through to me.  And I   
   can't get through to them.  We're all held hostage by overwhelming   
   amounts of unwanted crap.   
      
   Do Dr. Who fans really want to be seen throughought fandom as rude   
   assholes who turn everything they touch into a useless slum?  It would   
   seem so.   
   --   
   Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/   
   Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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