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   Cryptoengineer to Keith F. Lynch   
   Re: MT VOID, 12/05/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 23   
   07 Dec 25 19:37:53   
   
   From: petertrei@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/7/2025 4:34 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:   
   > Gary McGath  wrote:   
   >> Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:   
   >>> Magellan was not the first to circumnavigate the globe, nor was   
   >>> Sebastian Elcano.  That was Enrique of Malacca.   
   >   
   >> The Wikipedia article says this is open to dispute, and the   
   >> explanation of how he might have been is confusing.   
   >   
   > It's not clear where Enrique was originally from, but it's undisputed   
   > that he discovered he could speak the local language in the   
   > Philippines.  So he had almost certainly circled the Earth.  And done   
   > so before the survivors of the expedition made it back to Europe.   
      
   Its possible, but not proven.   
      
   He was enslaved in Malacca by Magellan on an earlier voyage east in   
   1511. He was on Magellan's later circumnavigation 1519-1522. He could   
   speak Malay. He was understood in Cebu, but Malay was a common   
   trade language in the area.   
      
   He left the expedition at Cebu. Cebu is about 20 degrees, or 2500 km   
   NE of Malacca, which Mindanao is about 100 km south of Cebu.   
      
   So the question is: Was he actually from the Phillipines, and learned   
   Malay later, settling in Malacca, or was he Malay from Malacca? If   
   the former case, he almost certainly circumnavigated. If the latter,   
   he still had quite a long way to go, but not an impossible distance,   
   and we just don't know if he did it.   
      
   pt   
      
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