From: bap@shrdlu.com   
      
   On 2026-01-18, Evelyn C. Leeper  wrote:   
   > On 1/17/26 17:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 17 Jan 2026 16:15:22 -0500, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Yes, there are international standards. But when someone put a bunch   
   >>> of names in a spreadsheet and asked to have it sorted, it would   
   >>> blithely ignore those standards, and sort 'ch' as 'c' followed by   
   >>> 'h'.   
   >>   
   >> That depends on your spreadsheet. The natural order (to humans,   
   >> anyway) is commonly called “phonebook” order.   
   >>   
   >>    
   >   
   > This assumes there is a single, natural order.   
      
   No, it assumes that the user knows what the standard order is.   
      
      
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