From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Sat, 17 Jan 2026 19:45:42 -0500, Someone Else wrote:   
      
   > How do you reasonably sort people's names if you don't know whether   
   > the surname precedes or follows the given name?   
      
   I like the French answer to this question: capitalize the family name   
   (don’t call it “surname”), so you can spot it wherever it occurs:   
      
       Peter SELLERS   
       LUGOSI Bela   
       Marty FELDMAN   
       SAKAMOTO Ryuichi   
       CHOW Yun Fat   
       Michelle YEOH Choo Kheng   
      
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