From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 17:23:28 -0500, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:   
      
   > On 1/18/26 16:51, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>   
   >> On Sat, 17 Jan 2026 19:45:42 -0500, Someone Else wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> How do you reasonably sort people's names if you don't know whether   
   >>> the surname precedes or follows the given name?   
   >>   
   >> I like the French answer to this question: capitalize the family name   
   >> (don’t call it “surname”), so you can spot it wherever it occurs:   
   >>   
   >>      Peter SELLERS   
   >>      LUGOSI Bela   
   >>      Marty FELDMAN   
   >>      SAKAMOTO Ryuichi   
   >>      CHOW Yun Fat   
   >>      Michelle YEOH Choo Kheng   
   >   
   > But in Iceland, there is no family name to capitalize.   
      
   Don’t capitalize it, then.   
      
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