XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv   
   From: me@privacy.net   
      
   On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:35:36 -0500, Jim Gysin wrote:   
      
   > Ian Galbraith sent the following on 10/26/2009 10:21 PM:   
   [snip]   
      
   >> I don't see how wanting to set a reasonable time limit on copyright is   
   >> selfish, self serving and stealing.   
   >   
   > Shouldn't the creator be the one to decide what is a reasonable time limit?   
      
   And the answer would be eternally then. Why should his heirs benefit from   
   something they had no hand in creating?   
      
   > But to answer your question, it is selfish and self-serving because it   
   > puts people in a position to get something for free that they would   
   > otherwise have to purchase if they wanted to obtain it legally, and it's   
   > painfully obvious that they don't want to pay for it.   
      
   No-one in this thread is saying get rid of copyright. By the time its out   
   of copyright there are other considerations like allowing others to use   
   cultural icons to produce their own culturally enriching works and   
   allowing competitive forces to ensure the works in question are still   
   available in some form.   
      
   >> Frankly I think the opposite is true,   
   >> are you really trying to claim that Disney isn't greedy?   
   >   
   > Disney is mo more or less greedy than anyone else, and their greed is   
   > centered around wanting to protect *their* assets--things that they have   
   > created or developed legally   
      
   But under your scheme a large number of major Disney productions of the   
   last few years are using assets that would have been copyrighted and   
   therefore illegal. As for Disney's original assets the actual creators   
   are long since dead.   
      
   >--whereas the greed of some in this thread   
   > is centered around wanting something for nothing.   
      
   I see no evidence of that in this thread.   
      
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