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   From: jimgysin@geemail.com   
      
   Frank Frank sent the following on 10/29/2009 10:29 AM:   
   > Jim Gysin wrote:   
   s>> trag sent the following on 10/28/2009 12:26 PM:   
   >>> Because the "natural" alternative is zero, not forever.   You show   
   >>> something to someone else, they now have the ability to copy it.   The   
   >>> only reaon they do not is because the rest of society saw some   
   >>> interest in *granting* you a monopoly for a limited period of time.   
   >>> Your property interest in an idea is not *yours* unless you choose to   
   >>> share it with no one.   You only get to treat it as a property   
   >>> interest because society has elected to help you do so for society's   
   >>> benefit.   
   >> I really love how the parasitic mindset here is working so hard to   
   >> justify thuggery and theft and the use of force   
   >   
   > The only one who has even mentioned the thought of repealing laws   
   > against theft and murder here, so far, is you, in the same post I'm   
   > quoting another part of here.   
      
   Post the backquote, then.  And be specific.  If I didn't know better, I   
   might think that you're being vague because you're just making it up.   
   Because from where I'm sitting, *you're* the one who wants do away with   
   copyright protection, as you freely admit.  And *you're* the one who is   
   trying to justify illegal filesharing, as you also freely admit.   
      
   > There's a world of difference between justifying, say, filesharing and   
   > justifying "thuggery and theft and the use of force".   
      
   The thuggery is in the attempt to force the creator to give up the   
   rights to his creation before he is willing to give them up.  The theft   
   is in taking or gaining access to that creation without meeting the   
   creator's terms of access.  The use of force is in running to the courts   
   to get the legal system to justify allowing you to get something for   
   free that you're unwilling to buy at mutually agreeable terms between   
   yourself and the creator.   
      
   >> whereas I'm only advocating a free market in which the buyer and seller   
   >> are both free to trade, or to not trade.   
   >   
   > Really? I thought you were advocating copyright, which is a RESTRAINT of   
   > trade.   
      
   Back to vocabulary class with you.  This time, look up "restraint."   
      
   --   
   Jim Gysin   
   Waukesha, WI   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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