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   From: me@privacy.net   
      
   On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:53:58 -0500, Jim Gysin wrote:   
      
   > Ian Galbraith sent the following on 10/28/2009 5:03 PM:   
   >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:19:34 -0500, Jim Gysin wrote:   
   >>   
   >> [snip]   
   >>   
   >>> In terms of the bigger picture, it never ceases to amaze me when people   
   >>> fail to see the damaging effects of the disincentives that they're so   
   >>> willing to promote.  And it's not just as it relates to creative types,   
   >>> but to the best of the best in anything.  Few people will make an effort   
   >>> to stand out and produce great things if the end result is that a horde   
   >>> of ingrates steal their output or decide, by judicial thuggery, to tell   
   >>> them how much their efforts are worth in a "fair" society.  It's   
   >>> parasitism at its worst.   
   >>   
   >> Strawman, everyone on this thread except for 1 person wants some   
   >> reasonable term of copyright to enable creators to reap a benefit and   
   >> continue creating.   
   >   
   > And you all want to force the creators of the world to accept *your*   
   > definition of "reasonable."  Again, it's thuggery.  Granted, you're not   
   > in the same cheap ass thief league as Seamus, but it's still thuggery.   
      
   Only if you're a hardcore libertarian which is obviously the POV you're   
   arguing from.   
      
   > If you honestly believe in freedom, why not allow them to be free to   
   > define the term for themselves, at which point you're free to accept   
   > their selling terms or to deny yourself the benefits of the works that   
   > only they can create?   
      
   If the copyright term is long enough that its effectively for their life   
   with perhaps some left over for their heirs that's freedom enough for   
   them to continue to be able to create their own works.   
      
   [snip]   
      
   --   
   "The one constant is not to let yourself get distracted when a song is   
   trying to find you. Once you have an idea with music, nothing else   
   matters but that idea. Your responsibility to the muse is to follow   
   it.... There's nothing more important ... Commitments are one of the   
   worst things for music making - they're annoying" - Neil Young   
      
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