XPost: alt.tv.star-trek.tos, rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.tv   
   From: dtravel@sonic.net   
      
   Steven L. wrote:   
   > On 12/9/2009 4:48 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:   
   >> A Watcher wrote:   
   >>> trag wrote:   
   >>>> On Dec 9, 9:56 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I agree with Ted here. The whole Soran plot was just a device   
   >>>>> (mcguffin, if I may), the real plot was reintroducing all the   
   >>>>> characters that most ST viewers "know", and the new interactions based   
   >>>>> on a certain event that occurred.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That's not the Kirk that I "know".   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Isn't a point of the latest movie? Changing their past changed the   
   >>> characters we knew in the original ST. Now they can go on and make new   
   >>> movies based on these different characters. There's no end to it.   
   >>>   
   >>> Of course that will confuse the casual viewers who are really into ST.   
   >>>   
   >> If you're going to change the characters and background _that_ _much_,   
   >> why not just write something new? It would probably be easier.   
   >   
   > What was changed?   
   >   
   > The main thing that was changed was Kirk's backstory prior to becoming   
   > Captain.  But that backstory had been covered in maybe FIVE MINUTES of   
   > dialogue in just TWO episodes in TOS:  "Obsession" and   
   > "Operation-Annihilate!"   
   >   
   > The other thing that was changed was Uhura sounded more like she was   
   > from Chicago than from Africa.  And yes, that's one thing I did NOT like.   
   >   
   > But the movie went out of its way to reboot the other characters true to   
   > form:   
   >   
   > Spock with Sarek and Amanda;   
   >   
   > Spock being bullied by his classmates, which was ONE SENTENCE in   
   > "Journey to Babel" plus a scene in TAS "Yesteryear" which practically no   
   > one saw because it was on Saturday morning for the kiddies;   
   >   
   > Captain Pike as the first Captain that Spock served under;   
   >   
   > McCoy being called "Bones" for the first time,   
   >   
   > Scotty as an engineering "miracle worker,"   
   >   
   > and even the Kobayashi Maru test!   
   >   
   You're making me wish I had kept a copy of my "review" of it.  But the   
   2009 movie crew had a level of discipline that makes Somali pirates look   
   like elite special forces.  While the original crew was the trained,   
   disciplined crew of a military ship.  The original Kirk wouldn't have   
   had to worry about the original Chekov suddenly leaving his station on   
   the bridge, during a red alert, without even informing anyone let alone   
   requesting permission, to run thru the ship shouting "I can do that!  I   
   can do that!" so he can push a superior officer away from their station   
   and interfere with the job they were doing.   
      
   The original Kirk may have been the youngest in Starfleet to ever get   
   command of a Starship, but he did it by graduating from the academy and   
   working his way up the ranks.  He _didn't_ go directly from "suspended   
   for cheating" to Captain, jumping half-a-dozen ranks and thousands of   
   superiors, because some now dead ex-captain happened to know his father   
   and had "a good feeling" about him.   
      
   The original Scotty was an experienced, calm, engineer who could be   
   depended on no matter how bad the situation got.  The "new" Scotty's   
   reaction to seeing two officers having a fist fight on the bridge is   
   "Oh, I like this ship.  Its exciting!"  *retch*   
      
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