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   From: dtravel@sonic.net   
      
   Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:   
   > On Dec 10, 8:02 am, Merrick Baldelli  wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:05:50 -0800 (PST), Santolina chamaecyparissus   
   >>   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>> Except, none of them act any differently from the old characters.   
   >>> Well, except Uhura, who has a huge schoolgirl crush on Spock.   
   >>> Fascinating.   
   >>         Or added phobias to McCoy that he didn't have.   
   >   
   > Who the fuck cares about trivial shit like that?  Did the new Bones   
   > act so substantially like the old Bones that everybody recognized him   
   > as Bones, yes or no?   
   >   
   No.   
      
   >>  Or the fact   
   >> that Montgomery Scott was well known for knowing Enterprise inside and   
   >> out,   
   >   
   > Er, a dozen years or more in the future, yeah.  Somebody'd not paying   
   > attention and it's not me.   
   >   
   > How do you think Scotty should be depicted a dozen or so years before   
   > TOS times?  Maybe jovial, clever, and with a quaint accent?  DING DING   
   > DING DING...... Scotty was Scotty.  They changed nothing about him,   
   > just put him in a different setting and made him a bit sillier as   
   > would befit a much younger man.   
   >   
   You appear to be assuming that the end of the 2009 movie does not   
   correspond to the beginning of the five year mission.  I would assume   
   the opposite.   
      
   >   
   >> and yet everything he was doing since boarding the ship even   
   >> surprised him.  Or that Sulu was pretty incompetent for a helmsman and   
   >> had issues getting out of space dock...   
   >   
   > My, what insightful analysis. How do you think Sulu should be depicted   
   > a dozen years or so before his age of competency?  Actually, the new   
   > Sulu is almost entirely devoid of personality whatsoever, easily the   
   > most forgettable of the core characters.   
   >   
   See above.   
      
   >   
   >>         Maybe you need to pay some more attention.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Funny.  All the characters are unchanged in any substantial way from   
   > their old depictions.  Kirk is just a more exaggerated version of   
   > Kirk, Spock is Spock, Bones is Bones (but with an extra phobia!!!),   
   > Scotty and Chekov are younger and sillier versions of themselves, Sulu   
   > is Sulu except with even less personality.  The only exception is   
   > Uhura, who seems less interested in her career than Spock's potent   
   > blend of Vulcan/Human musk.   
   >   
   And yet many of us disagree with "the characters are all the same, just   
   younger", seeing the 2009 movie versions as having entirely different   
   personalities.   
      
   > If changing the timeline only changes a character in trivial ways then   
   > what was the point of changing the timeline?  Maybe they'll get around   
   > to telling us in the next movie, if they can squeeze a little   
   > exposition in between all the fucking explosions.   
   >   
   I doubt it.   
      
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