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   XPost: alt.tv.star-trek.tos, rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.tv   
   From: dtravel@sonic.net   
      
   Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:   
   > On Dec 10, 5:03 pm, Dimensional Traveler  wrote:   
   >> Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:   
   >>> On Dec 9, 1:51 pm, Dimensional Traveler  wrote:   
   >>>> Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:   
   >>>>> On Dec 9, 9:34 am, A Watcher  wrote:   
   >>>>>> trag wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Dec 9, 9:56 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> I agree with Ted here.  The whole Soran plot was just a device   
   >>>>>>>> (mcguffin, if I may), the real plot was reintroducing all the   
   >>>>>>>> characters that most ST viewers "know", and the new interactions based   
   >>>>>>>> on a certain event that occurred.   
   >>>>>>> That's not  the Kirk that I "know".   
   >>>>>> Isn't a point of the latest movie?  Changing their past changed the   
   >>>>>> characters we knew in the original ST.  Now they can go on and make new   
   >>>>>> movies based on these different characters.  There's no end to it.   
   >>>>> Except, none of them act any differently from the old characters.   
   >>>>> Well, except Uhura, who has a huge schoolgirl crush on Spock.   
   >>>>> Fascinating.   
   >>>> And yet most of the complaints include something about how the   
   >>>> characters act _nothing_ like the previous bearers of those names.   
   >>> Every review I read, and they were by generic movie reviewers rather   
   >>> than Trek fans, included some statement along the lines of "X and Y   
   >>> nailed their characters."  I don't recall any of them complaining that   
   >>> they couldn't recognize the reimagined characters, but maybe you read   
   >>> more reviews than I did.  Who complained, old Trek fans?  They'll   
   >>> complain about anything.   
   >> So the reviewers claim that the new actors "nailed the characters" of   
   >> characters the reviewers don't know.   
   >   
   > Uh, no.  They know the characters, they're just not Trek geeks so far   
   > as I can tell.  Don't be obtuse.   
   >   
   >>  Yes, that's such a ringing   
   >> endorsement.  More likely the reviewers were saying that the actors   
   >> "nailed" the characters as written for the movie,   
   >   
   > No, they were saying what I implied they were saying.   
   >   
   I disagree.   
      
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