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From: ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net
In article
<7179f4fa-9e45-4556-9934-f4e6384164cb@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Dan Dassow wrote:
> On Dec 13, 4:29 pm, Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article
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> > r...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > Consider that Star Trek is on a par with Star Wars, an
> > > > > iconic American property that even older Academy voters
> > > > > can appreciate.
> >
> > > > Which isn't the same as saying Star Trek 2009 is on par with Star Wars
> > > > 1977. Not even close. Not the same solar system.
> >
> > > And even just from a technical standpoint, Star Wars stood alone in
> > > 1977 simply by the fact that the means to produce it had to be drawn
> > > up from scratch. The talent and production pipelines to make such a
> > > film today are all over Hollywood (and the world, i.e. Weta in NZ) and
> > > we see the results on a weekly basis, but back then the studios had
> > > disbanded their effects units, farming out what little effects they
> > > needed to the few model or optical houses in existence. The
> > > requirements of Star Wars required the creation of Industrial Light
> > > and Magic, or it never would have been possible. CE3K was another
> > > notable effects movie from 1977 (yet less over-the-top), but that's
> > > about it. Star Wars being unique and unusual (and a great time to
> > > boot) got it Oscar's attention.
> >
> > And look what won the Oscar just the year before: Logan's Run, with
> > it's pathetic tiny out of focus models. Star Wars took everything to a
> > whole new level.
> >
> >
> >
> > > (The only studio that seemed to still have the capability to do an
> > > entire effects-laden production in-house was Disney with "The Black
> > > Hole." Perhaps their animated films required an active technical
> > > department so they never shut it down.)
> >
> > > Rik
> >
> > But the FX in "The Black Hole" are *terrible*
> >
>
> I would have used the words pathetic and laughable, but the point is
> the same.
>
> Dan Dassow
I reserve "pathetic and laughable" for Yvette with her head wrapped in
tinfoil. :)
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