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   Anim8rFSK to SFTV_troy@yahoo.com   
   Re: Star Trek TNG in hi-def: Looks bette   
   04 Jan 10 17:44:34   
   
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   XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv   
   From: ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net   
      
   In article   
   <6e9a426f-0704-4cd7-bbd6-7bb1cc7e619d@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,   
    SFTV_troy  wrote:   
      
   > On Jan 3, 7:54 pm, "David E. Powell"  wrote:   
   > > On Jan 3, 9:48 am, SFTV troy  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > > On Jan 2, 7:28 pm, "David E. Powell"  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > > On Jan 2, 12:50 pm, Lance Corporal Hammer Schultz   
   > >   
   > > > >  wrote:   
   > > > > > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 07:58:58 -0800 (PST), SFTV troy wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > > > > It's the original 480i analog tapes scanned into 1080i digital (by   
   > > > > > > Paramount).  Still the upcoverted HD looks better than the overly-   
   > > > > > > compressed DVDs with their annoying artifacts.  Paramount's   
   > > > > > > engineers   
   > > > > > > did a lousy job with those DVD sets... which is inexcusable   
   > > > > > > considering they cost $120 per season (original MSRP).   
   > >   
   > > > > > Correct.  The crappy video quality of the DVD set has nothing to do   
   > > > > > with DVD specs.   
   > >   
   > > > > It isn't exactly a low demand DVD though.   
   > >   
   > > > Relevance?   
   > >   
   > > There wouldn't be too much risk redoing it, because plenty of people   
   > > would buy a higher quality release. Even people who had the   
   > > originals.   
   > >   
   > > > > Is it true the DVD episodes were occasionally cut from original   
   > > > > status? I heard that some of "Face of the Enemy" may have been   
   > > > > snipped.   
   > >   
   > > > Really?  That sucks (if true).   
   > >   
   > > I heard that a scene from the original show was cut, where a Romulan   
   > > crewman sacrifices himself so that the Romulan Captain could get the   
   > > drop on Troi. Maybe they didn't want to show an enemy doing that, but   
   > > it said a lot about their culture.   
   > >   
   > > > > The TNG DVDs came out a while ago, I'd heard good reviews of them   
   > > > > before, not anything about bad quality.   
   > >   
   > > > They are mostly okay, except when there's dark scenes, and then you   
   > > > can see the picture devolve into pixels... like watching youtube.  The   
   > > > DS9 DVD set has the exact-same flaw.   
   > >   
   > > I've noticed. Strange to see it in ST because I'd think it would be a   
   > > high end production. I have "Sledge Hammer" on DVD and there's a   
   > > little of that in the night scenes, but very little.   
   >   
   >   
   > Oh Star Trek was definitely high-end: $1.5 million spent per episode.   
   > The original Betacam tapes are probably flawless, but Paramount   
      
   Why would there be Betacam tapes of TNG?   
      
   > decided to go with a cheap transfer when they created the DVDs.   
   > Pinching pennies instead of spending the extra hours on an engineer to   
   > fine-tune the dark scenes and eliminate pixels.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > > > Putting 4 episodes per DVD was a bad idea.  They should have limited   
   > > > themselves to 3 episodes, especially for the price paid ($120).   
   > >   
   > > I hear you, that would up the compression. I think "Sledge" has six   
   > > half hour episodes per DVD, or roughly the equivalent of three one   
   > > hour episodes of Trek. Maybe that explains the clear transfer on   
   > > "Sledge." It was also done just a couple of years back.   
   >   
   > Yep.  Unfortunately putting 4 hour-long shows per DVD has now become   
   > standard.  I don't think DVD was ever designed to handle that much   
   > video in such a small space (4.7 gig).   
      
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