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   From: weberm@polaris.net   
      
   anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:   
   > Wouter Valentijn  wrote:   
   >> Op 23-6-2017 om 20:21 schreef anim8rfsk:   
   >> >  Wouter Valentijn  wrote:   
   >> >> Op 23-6-2017 om 13:31 schreef anim8rfsk:   
      
   >> >>>>> They keep saying this takes place 10 years before Kirk.  Assuming they   
   >> >>>>> mean '10 years before Kirk took over the Enterprise' or '10 years   
   before   
   >> >>>>> the first episode of TOS' then, yes, he was in Starfleet - OBSESSION's   
   >> >>>>> flashbacks take place 11 years before season 2,   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>> According to Wikipedia, "Star Trek: Discovery" begins in 2254 and 2264   
   was   
   >> >>>> when Kirk took command of the Enterprise.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Stupid retcon TNG dating.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Yes, that was an error. But sadly now the case for most of the Prime   
   >> >> Timeline.   
   >> >   
   >> > :(   
   >> >   
   >>   
   >> Funny thing is, in 'Encounter at Farpoint', Data says he graduated from   
   >> Starfleet in '78.... Which would place that in I think 2278. 2378 would   
   >> be really silly in the light of 2364 mentioned by Geordi in a later episode.   
   >>   
   >> If 2278 is true, for that episode, than I think that their first inkling   
   >> was to set TNG around 2300.   
   >>   
   >> I have somewhere in my collection (I don't remember the exact title) a   
   >> guide to the history of ships named 'Enterprise', with a timeline that   
   >> shifts the now 'official' timeline some 60 years into the past. Which   
   >> better suits what was going on in TOS.   
   >>   
   >> And if I'm not mistaken the text on the cover of the TMP novel states   
   >> that it is set at the beginning of the 23d century. (the German language   
   >> version of Star Trek (TOS) (Raumschiff Enterprise) says it is in the   
   >> year 2200).   
   >>   
   >> So, sadly there was a shift of over half a century.   
   >   
   >TNG was originally in the first year (or years) of the 24th Century, so   
   >call it 2301.  It was also 78 years after real Trek, so call real Trek   
   >2223 (we don't know *where* in real Trek, so there's some leeway).  Mr.   
   >Scott's Guide to the Enterprise put TMP in 2222 (IIRC).  All of that   
   >worked just fine.  Then at the end of TNG's first season, Data tells the   
   >guys from the past that it's "By your calendar two thousand three   
   >hundred sixty four." and they decided that rather than admit Data (or   
   >credited writers Maurice Hurley and/or Deborah McIntyre and/or Mona   
   >Clee*) got it wrong they've been retconning ever since.   
      
   I was not aware of that, but they could have used the "by your calendar" as an   
   escape.   
      
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