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   From: dtravel@sonic.net   
      
   On 6/27/2017 6:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   >   Dimensional Traveler  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 6/27/2017 6:45 AM, The Last Doctor wrote:   
   >>> Ubiquitous  wrote:   
   >>>> starfist@gmail.invalid wrote:   
   >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:21:41 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   >>>>>> liam@valentijn.nu wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Op 26-6-2017 om 19:46 schreef Ubiquitous:   
   >>>>>>>> starfist@gmail.invalid wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I wonder if the reason women are forbidden to command a starship in   
   >>>>>>>>> Krik's era has anything to do with the disaster that is brewing for   
   >>>>>>>>> this series.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Didn't we learn anything from Voyager?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Voyager had issues orbiting issues. The gender of Janeway was not part   
   >>>>>>> of that. It was the writers. They failed.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> If memory serves, they made a big deal about having a female captain   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The PR push was annoying, but they didn't have to upend anything to   
   >>>>> write the character.  At least the timeline worked. Kirk says that   
   >>>>> women are forbidden to captain a sharship 10 years after Discover   
   >>>>> takes place. Not a problem for Voyager.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But that wasn't the point. the point is they made a big deal about finally   
   >>>> having a female Captain and she was a miserable failure, proving the point   
   >>>> of   
   >>>> them not allowing female captains.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> They'd had female captains before though - Uhura even had the conn of the   
   >>> Enterprise in a TAS episode. The captain of the Saratoga in STIV, the   
   >>> captain of the Enterprise C - even Troi managed not to make a total pigs   
   >>> ear of it the one time she got command. Alongside Voyager, Dax was known to   
   >>> command the Defiant...   
   >>>   
   >> There is a significant difference between being the Captain (commanding   
   >> officer) of a ship and having the conn (standing a watch as the senior   
   >> on-duty bridge officer or temporarily filling in for said).   
   >   
   > Dax commanded the Defiant on missions. She *was* the skipper for the   
   > duration of those missions.   
   >   
   My comment was aimed more at some of the other examples (Uhura, Troi).   
      
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