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From: liam@valentijn.nu
Op 30-6-2017 om 16:00 schreef anim8rfsk:
> In article ,
> Ubiquitous wrote:
>
>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 22:01 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>>>>> Op 28-6-2017 om 23:16 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>>>>> In article , Obveeus
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/28/2017 3:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/2017 3:30 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obveeus wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are going to rag on the show as being incompetent for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the look of 'known things', how do you resolve the changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original cast era (such as the Klingon's face/head)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They explained that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep...with hand-wavium silliness that negated the simple reality
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Trek film modified the look of the Klingons because the
>>>>>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>>>>>> look was too simplistic and lame for a film.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And yet the Vulcans got a pass. Aren't all of us humanoids
>>>>>>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> be closely related in Trek anyway? Seems kind of racist that
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> hasn't been a lot more interbreeding . . .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, there was an ep of TNG in which it was established that most
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> humanoids in this galaxy have something encoded in their DNA that
>>>>>>>>>> produces
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> holographic message when reassembled.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I _HATE_ "magic DNA" eps!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, wasn't it humans, Vulcans, Klingons, and Romulans?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it was just Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons...with Humans
>>>>>>>> evolving independently rather than being seeded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wiki says humans, Kardashians, Klingons and Romulans are involved. It
>>>>>>> makes sense for Kardashians to be non human.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You'd think the Klingonese DNA would be so screwed up that their
>>>>>>>>> portion
>>>>>>>>> wouldn't work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, it is now...ever since the bumpy head event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, Hell, I'll pull it up on the Netflix. First time for TNG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Chase" - TNG always did have uninspired titles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does Will sneak this guy into the observation lounge without
>>>>>>> Picard
>>>>>>> knowing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best part of TNG - the TMP theme song.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh, God, no, guest star Tara King, the woman that destroyed The
>>>>>>> Avengers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy is real. Not Troi, Troy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you possibly know that finding an unknown treasure will take 3
>>>>>>> months to less than a year? Wouldn't the time frame be zero to
>>>>>>> infinity?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Optimism?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is Picard talking to an Irish setter in a blue uniform?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The incompetent ship's doctor can't save Picard's old friend. Imagine
>>>>>>> my surprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And ironically the old friend once WAS a doctor. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troi is annoying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would the Professor's diary say where to go after this, if he's
>>>>>>> following a trail? Why are they going back to a planet the professor
>>>>>>> had already been to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the Klingons can just effortlessly destroy the biosphere of a
>>>>>>> planet,
>>>>>>> why haven't they killed everybody everywhere yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deals with the UFP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can you not take a biosample from a planet with the transporter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why does Picard assign the incompetent doctor to design a computer
>>>>>>> program to find the missing fragment?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why does a lifeless planet having once had an ocean mean it once
>>>>>>> supported life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did the Kardashians go to the wrong planet, figure out it was the
>>>>>>> wrong planet, through some mysterious mechanism figure out what the
>>>>>>> right planet is, and get there 30 seconds after the Enterprise?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How come the ancient alien is one of Odo's people?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad luck?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, the final answer is - there's a bunch of fragments from a bunch
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> worlds, and it's totally unclear how many, much less who is included
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> who is not. But apparently Kardashians, Romulans, and Earthers are
>>>>>>> related, and presumably all humanoids in 'this part of the galaxy'
>>>>>>> are,
>>>>>>> which doesn't explain all the humanoids over there in the Delta
>>>>>>> quadrant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> God this is a lousy show.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Extremely bad science. That's not how it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Preservers as an explanation was much cooler for human types across
>>>>>> the galaxy. Parallel evolution would be slightly more plausible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. We already had the Preservers and Sargon's people. And whoever
>>>>> the Hell built Miri's planet, which looks just like Earth, but is
>>>>> *older* There was no reason for this stupid crap episode at all.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One of my reference books (forgot which one, maybe 'Worlds of the
>>>> Federation'?), speculated that Earth's solar system went through some
>>>> gigantic cosmic replicator (or something like that), resulting in that
>>>> Earth duplicate in 'Miri'.
>>>
>>> THE SHAT got into it a little bit in his Trek books. The big problem
>>> and inescapable conclusion is that given that the Miri world is like 100
>>> years older than Earth, there's just no way that Earth is the original!
>>
>> Say what?
>> One hundred years is pretty insignificant compared to the age of a planet.
>
> But the Miri civilization was identical to 1960s Mayberry, and yet dated
> from a hundred years earlier. So it was there first.
>
> Now maybe Don Knotts went back in time and messed stuff up, but the Miri
> world was the one with identical land masses, so ... it's either the
> original or an earlier copy of something else, but no way our Earth was
> first.
>
> Same thing for the duplicate civilization in THE OMEGA GLORY. There was
> no mention of identical land masses, but if Tracey was right, the good
> guys lost a war the the Godless commies more than a thousand years
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