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From: weberm@polaris.net
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous wrote:
>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> > Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>> >> Op 29-6-2017 om 22:01 schreef anim8rfsk:
>> >> > Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>> >> >> Op 28-6-2017 om 23:16 schreef anim8rfsk:
>> >> >>> Obveeus wrote:
>> >> >>>> On 6/28/2017 3:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> >> >>>>> Ubiquitous wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> Obveeus wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>> On 6/26/2017 3:30 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Obveeus wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> If you are going to rag on the show as being incompetent for
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> changing the look of 'known things', how do you resolve the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> changes within the original cast era (such as the Klingon's
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> face/head)?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> They explained that.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Yep...with hand-wavium silliness that negated the simple
reality that
>> >> >>>>>>>> the Trek film modified the look of the Klingons because the
>> >> >>>>>>>> original look was too simplistic and lame for a film.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> And yet the Vulcans got a pass. Aren't all of us humanoids
>> >> >>>>>>> supposed to be closely related in Trek anyway? Seems kind of
>> >> >>>>>>> racist that there hasn't been a lot more interbreeding . . .
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Yeah, there was an ep of TNG in which it was established that
most of
>> >> >>>>>> the humanoids in this galaxy have something encoded in their DNA
that
>> >> >>>>>> produces a holographic message when reassembled.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I _HATE_ "magic DNA" eps!
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Yeah, wasn't it humans, Vulcans, Klingons, and Romulans?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I think it was just Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons...with Humans
>> >> >>>> evolving independently rather than being seeded.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> You'd think the Klingonese DNA would be so screwed up that their
>> >> >>>>> portion wouldn't work.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Well, it is now...ever since the bumpy head event.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Oh, Hell, I'll pull it up on the Netflix. First time for TNG.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "The Chase" - TNG always did have uninspired titles.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> How does Will sneak this guy into the observation lounge without
>> >> >>> Picard
>> >> >>> knowing?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best part of TNG - the TMP theme song.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> oh, God, no, guest star Tara King, the woman that destroyed The
>> >> >>> Avengers!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Troy is real. Not Troi, Troy.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> How do you possibly know that finding an unknown treasure will take 3
>> >> >>> months to less than a year? Wouldn't the time frame be zero to
>> >> >>> infinity?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Why is Picard talking to an Irish setter in a blue uniform?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The incompetent ship's doctor can't save Picard's old friend.
Imagine
>> >> >>> my surprise.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Troi is annoying.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Why would the Professor's diary say where to go after this, if he's
>> >> >>> following a trail? Why are they going back to a planet the professor
>> >> >>> had already been to?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> If the Klingons can just effortlessly destroy the biosphere of a
>> >> >>> planet,
>> >> >>> why haven't they killed everybody everywhere yet?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> How can you not take a biosample from a planet with the transporter?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Why does Picard assign the incompetent doctor to design a computer
>> >> >>> program to find the missing fragment?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Why does a lifeless planet having once had an ocean mean it once
>> >> >>> supported life?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> How did the Kardashians go to the wrong planet, figure out it was the
>> >> >>> wrong planet, through some mysterious mechanism figure out what the
>> >> >>> right planet is, and get there 30 seconds after the Enterprise?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> How come the ancient alien is one of Odo's people?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Okay, the final answer is - there's a bunch of fragments from a
bunch of
>> >> >>> worlds, and it's totally unclear how many, much less who is included
and
>> >> >>> who is not. But apparently Kardashians, Romulans, and Earthers are
>> >> >>> related, and presumably all humanoids in 'this part of the galaxy'
>> >> >>> are, which doesn't explain all the humanoids over there in the Delta
>> >> >>> quadrant.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> God this is a lousy show.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Extremely bad science. That's not how it works.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Preservers as an explanation was much cooler for human types
across
>> >> >> the galaxy. Parallel evolution would be slightly more plausible.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yep. We already had the Preservers and Sargon's people. And whoever
>> >> > the Hell built Miri's planet, which looks just like Earth, but is
>> >> > *older* There was no reason for this stupid crap episode at all.
>> >>
>> >> One of my reference books (forgot which one, maybe 'Worlds of the
>> >> Federation'?), speculated that Earth's solar system went through some
>> >> gigantic cosmic replicator (or something like that), resulting in that
>> >> Earth duplicate in 'Miri'.
>> >
>> >THE SHAT got into it a little bit in his Trek books. The big problem
>> >and inescapable conclusion is that given that the Miri world is like 100
>> >years older than Earth, there's just no way that Earth is the original!
>>
>> Say what?
>> One hundred years is pretty insignificant compared to the age of a planet.
>
>But the Miri civilization was identical to 1960s Mayberry, and yet dated
>from a hundred years earlier. So it was there first.
Oh, you weren't talking about the age of the planet.
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