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   From: starfist@gmail.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:43:55 +1200, Your Name wrote:   
      
   > Not from the moment Gene Roddenberry stopped having any official say.   
      
   Meh.  Most of the best Trek didn't start coming until some time around   
   the third season of TNG.  The two seasons of any Trek where Gene had   
   the most influence were the two worst seasons of, well, any Trek at   
   all -- 1 and 2 of TNG.  He wasn't (couldn't?) pushing so much of the   
   worst ideas he had during TOS so there are a lot of great TOS   
   episodes, but this idea that Roddenberry was some kind of genius and   
   all good Trek came from his mind is just wrong.   
      
   Seems to me that regarding "real Trek" as just what Roddenberry did is   
   like saying "real Stargate" is just the original theatrical movie.   
   That may have started it, but the bulk of the franchise (or whatever   
   you call it) and the bulk of what people watch and like is very much   
   something else.  It is what it is.   
      
   Obviously this new show is going to be junk, but the lack of Gene   
   Roddenberry has nothing to do with it.   
      
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