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   From: consul@dolphinsPLEASEdelAWAY-cove.DELcom   
      
   On 9/26/2017 8:01 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:   
   > BTR1701   wrote:   
   >> Your Name  wrote:   
   >>>      It remains to be seen whether Burnham's African-American   
   >>>      identity will be mined for storytelling purposes. "Discovery"   
   >>>      hesitantly brings it up once, before quickly dropping it. It would   
   >>>      be intriguing - and timely - if "Discovery" explored that aspect   
   >>>      of Burnham's experience now and then, instead of assuming, as   
   >>>      "Trek" so often blithely has, that in the future humans will live   
   >>>      in a post-racial society.   
   >> It's hard to get hung up on something as minor as skin color when the   
   >> crewman sitting next to you is a 5-foot tall insect.   
   > Yeah.   
   > I think that Variety reviewer made a mistake there.  The   
   > Captain's "You of all people should know better" more likely   
   > referred to Burnham's growing up as a human on Vulcan.  If   
   > they're keeping some of the stuff from "Enterprise" (oh, I hope   
   > not!) the Vulcans just don't like the smell of humans, among   
   > other things.  She probably experienced prejudice that is,   
   > perhaps, very rare on Earth.   
      
    From what we have seen of the other alien planets a part of the   
   Federation, or most other alien culture is how species/culturally pure   
   they are. On Vulcan, Qo'noS, Romulus, etc, most of the time we see   
   singular, native species wandering around. Earth, however, always had   
   a good smattering of non-human folks in the crowds   
      
   > It looks like maybe (I hope I hope!) they are going to   
   > de-canonicalize the whole idiotic "Great Klingon   
   > Transmogrification" thing.  As Roddenberry said, Klingons always   
   > looked like that, even in TOS; they just didn't have the budget   
   > for it back in the 60s. I like that the makeup is more than just   
   > forehead bumps, or a snapping turtle shell on the forehead, but   
   > I think this may obscure the actors' faces a bit too much.   
      
   It was a bit intense, they really should have gone with something more   
   expressive. But it also seems that they don't care to make an   
   emotive/expressive Klingon if they are going to be just the big bad   
   African/Egyptian enemy.   
   Costuming is great, I like it a vareity that works.   
   While the dialogue was super slow, I guess because of the actor's   
   unfamiliarity with the language, it was interesting. I would watch a   
   series focused on the Klingons in this timeline, from their point of   
   view, of reclaiming their heritage and destiny. Sure the main ones   
   were assholes and violent, but there was actual dialogue of dissent.   
   He was called out as being dishonerable, but he also wasn't killed on   
   the spot, which I had expected would have happened on such a   
   pro-war/military ship.   
      
   "To lock arms against those those whose fatal greeting is ... We Come   
   in Peace"   
   --   
   "... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here,   
   at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."   
      --till next time, consul   
      
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