XPost: rec.arts.drwho, rec.arts.sf.tv
From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
In article ,
J. Clarke wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 16:08:12 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>(The Doctor) wrote:
>
>>In article ,
>>Agamemnon wrote:
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>>>So it looks like Star Trek: Discovery got there first with a transgender
>>>character in the lead role, namely Michael Burnham played by actress
>>>Sonequa Martin-Green. That's Michael pronounced Michael as in Michael
>>>Jackson or George Michael, not a typo of Michelle as in Michelle Yeoh,
>>>on the IMDB as I originally thought.
>>>
>>>So what does Discovery have to offer? Well there's no USS Discovery for
>>>a stat, in either of the first two episodes. What there is is 24 tribes
>>>of insectoid Klingons and an albino Klingon that all look exactly the
>>>same. You would have thought that the producers could have used this
>>>opportunity to show every Klingon appearance that has been depicted in
>>>every Star Trek episode and movie, including the human like ones, but
>>>no, they all look like bipedal insects.
>>>
>>>Michael Burnham as the name suggests is played as if she were a man, and
>>>it is not convincing and neither is Michelle Yeoh playing Captain
>>>Phillipa Georgiou. If you're going to give a character a man's name and
>>>have them written as a man they get a man to play them, and if you've
>>>given a character a Greek name then at least get a Greek or European
>>>actor to play them, not a Chinese or south east Asian one. Talk about
>>>George Takai condemning Hollywood for "Yellow Face", ie. the casting of
>>>white actors in roles that are supposed to be portraying south-east
>>>Asians. It's not as if they couldn't find any Greek-American actors to
>>>play the part, since they still managed to find Sam Vartholomeos to play
>>>Ensign Connor.
>>>
>>>Michelle Yeoh's attempt to do a female Jean Luc Piccard doesn't work and
>>>her accent is worse than Chekov and Scotty put together. Fortunately she
>>>gets killed off in the second part. Unfortunately Michael Burnham
>>>doesn't. Neither of them are convincing, especially fighting Klingons
>>>with their bare hands. Put two women in a ring with Mike Tyson and he'd
>>>floor both of them with just one punch. And like a puny female is able
>>>to perform the Vulkan Neck Pinch, whereas Captain Kirk couldn't?
>>>
>>>So the Kingons have become Jihadists who are united by a religious
>>>Kahless death cult obsessed nutter who wants to wage war on the
>>>Federation as a way of getting them to drop their tribal feuds and join
>>>forces, on the pretext of inciting hatred of the Federation motto, "We
>>>Come in Peace" and luring then into a trap. Totally ridiculous.
>>>
>>>Other than that, half of the entire first two episodes are padded with
>>>flashbacks featuring Michael Burnham--why the fuck couldn't they called
>>>her Michelle--it was a good enough name for Yeoh?--and conversations
>>>between her and her adopted father/mentor Sarek, some of which seem to
>>>be hallucinated.
>>>
>>>In the end she mutinies against her captain to try to take the first
>>>strike against the Klingons, and she fails, gets her captain killed, and
>>>is sentenced to life imprisonment. And that's where her story should
>>>have ended. But oh no...
>>>
>>>She'll be back in episode 3 on the USS Discovery along with half the
>>>crew of the Shenzu. Sound's familiar does it?
>>>
>>>Having no ideas of their own is seems the produces have stitched ST:
>>>Discovery together from the worst parts of ST: Voyager, the worst series
>>>of Enterprise, where they spent the entire pointless 9/11 themed third
>>>series going after the Xindi, and ripped off the entire pretexts of fan
>>>made productions ST: Axanar and ST: Renegades both of which are far better.
>>>
>>>I am awaiting what happens when Jason Isaacs appears in episode 3.
>>>Hopefully Sonequa Martin-Green's character is killed off early since it
>>>was impossible to identify with either her or Yeoh's character.
>>>
>>>As for the other characters, Lt. Saru is a pain in the arse just like
>>>Neelix was in Voyager. Sam Vartholomeos put on a good performance as
>>>Ensign Conner and I think his character should be given more time and
>>>possible a female love interest (not Martin-Green, I have others in
>>>mind), but unfortunately adding insult to injury the produces seem to
>>>have to decided to follow the relationship of two male homosexuals on
>>>board the Discovery instead. So they basically want to alienate almost
>>>every potential viewer.
>>>
>>>What a waste of money when two much better fan productions could have
>>>been financed instead.
>>>
>>>Well there's always The Orville.
>>>
>>>This does not bode well for a female Doctor Who.
>>>
>>
>>Point well taken. The perverts are taking over!
>
>Just a note but the mother in "The Waltons" was played by Michael
>Learned (not a typo for Michelle, and she is _not_ transgender).
Noted.
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