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   From: jclarke.873638@gmail.com   
      
   On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 16:08:12 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
   (The Doctor) wrote:   
      
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   >>So it looks like Star Trek: Discovery got there first with a transgender   
   >>character in the lead role, namely Michael Burnham played by actress   
   >>Sonequa Martin-Green. That's Michael pronounced Michael as in Michael   
   >>Jackson or George Michael, not a typo of Michelle as in Michelle Yeoh,   
   >>on the IMDB as I originally thought.   
   >>   
   >>So what does Discovery have to offer? Well there's no USS Discovery for   
   >>a stat, in either of the first two episodes. What there is is 24 tribes   
   >>of insectoid Klingons and an albino Klingon that all look exactly the   
   >>same. You would have thought that the producers could have used this   
   >>opportunity to show every Klingon appearance that has been depicted in   
   >>every Star Trek episode and movie, including the human like ones, but   
   >>no, they all look like bipedal insects.   
   >>   
   >>Michael Burnham as the name suggests is played as if she were a man, and   
   >>it is not convincing and neither is Michelle Yeoh playing Captain   
   >>Phillipa Georgiou. If you're going to give a character a man's name and   
   >>have them written as a man they get a man to play them, and if you've   
   >>given a character a Greek name then at least get a Greek or European   
   >>actor to play them, not a Chinese or south east Asian one. Talk about   
   >>George Takai condemning Hollywood for "Yellow Face", ie. the casting of   
   >>white actors in roles that are supposed to be portraying south-east   
   >>Asians. It's not as if they couldn't find any Greek-American actors to   
   >>play the part, since they still managed to find Sam Vartholomeos to play   
   >>Ensign Connor.   
   >>   
   >>Michelle Yeoh's attempt to do a female Jean Luc Piccard doesn't work and   
   >>her accent is worse than Chekov and Scotty put together. Fortunately she   
   >>gets killed off in the second part. Unfortunately Michael Burnham   
   >>doesn't. Neither of them are convincing, especially fighting Klingons   
   >>with their bare hands. Put two women in a ring with Mike Tyson and he'd   
   >>floor both of them with just one punch. And like a puny female is able   
   >>to perform the Vulkan Neck Pinch, whereas Captain Kirk couldn't?   
   >>   
   >>So the Kingons have become Jihadists who are united by a religious   
   >>Kahless death cult obsessed nutter who wants to wage war on the   
   >>Federation as a way of getting them to drop their tribal feuds and join   
   >>forces, on the pretext of inciting hatred of the Federation motto, "We   
   >>Come in Peace" and luring then into a trap. Totally ridiculous.   
   >>   
   >>Other than that, half of the entire first two episodes are padded with   
   >>flashbacks featuring Michael Burnham--why the fuck couldn't they called   
   >>her Michelle--it was a good enough name for Yeoh?--and conversations   
   >>between her and her adopted father/mentor Sarek, some of which seem to   
   >>be hallucinated.   
   >>   
   >>In the end she mutinies against her captain to try to take the first   
   >>strike against the Klingons, and she fails, gets her captain killed, and   
   >>is sentenced to life imprisonment. And that's where her story should   
   >>have ended. But oh no...   
   >>   
   >>She'll be back in episode 3 on the USS Discovery along with half the   
   >>crew of the Shenzu. Sound's familiar does it?   
   >>   
   >>Having no ideas of their own is seems the produces have stitched ST:   
   >>Discovery together from the worst parts of ST: Voyager, the worst series   
   >>of Enterprise, where they spent the entire pointless 9/11 themed third   
   >>series going after the Xindi, and ripped off the entire pretexts of fan   
   >>made productions ST: Axanar and ST: Renegades both of which are far better.   
   >>   
   >>I am awaiting what happens when Jason Isaacs appears in episode 3.   
   >>Hopefully Sonequa Martin-Green's character is killed off early since it   
   >>was impossible to identify with either her or Yeoh's character.   
   >>   
   >>As for the other characters, Lt. Saru is a pain in the arse just like   
   >>Neelix was in Voyager. Sam Vartholomeos put on a good performance as   
   >>Ensign Conner and I think his character should be given more time and   
   >>possible a female love interest (not Martin-Green, I have others in   
   >>mind), but unfortunately adding insult to injury the produces seem to   
   >>have to decided to follow the relationship of two male homosexuals on   
   >>board the Discovery instead. So they basically want to alienate almost   
   >>every potential viewer.   
   >>   
   >>What a waste of money when two much better fan productions could have   
   >>been financed instead.   
   >>   
   >>Well there's always The Orville.   
   >>   
   >>This does not bode well for a female Doctor Who.   
   >>   
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   >Point well taken.  The perverts are taking over!   
      
   Just a note but the mother in "The Waltons" was played by Michael   
   Learned (not a typo for Michelle, and she is _not_ transgender).   
      
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