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   Message 76,747 of 77,408   
   Wouter Valentijn to All   
   Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to   
   12 Jan 18 15:43:02   
   
   XPost: alt.startrek, alt.tv.star-trek, rec.arts.tv   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv   
   From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Op 12-1-2018 om 07:09 schreef anim8rfsk:   
   > In article ,   
   >   Daniel60  wrote:   
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   > Kirk faces off with Nogura in Nogura's office*  We find out that Nogura   
   > wanted Kirk as a publicity figurehead and tricked him into being   
   > grounded; part of this was a standard one year marriage contract with   
   > Admiral Lori Ciani.  Kirk sort of blackmails Nogura into getting the   
   > Enterprise back.  As he leaves, Ciani is waiting for him.  The dialog   
   > goes something like:   
   > Ciani:  Jim, the year we spent together ...   
   > Kirk:  Don't say it.  Your words could label you a whore ... Nogura's   
   > staff whore.   
      
   I remember these parts in the beginning of the novel, but did he say   
   that word "whore" /out loud/ to her? I thought he was only /thinking/ it.   
   Been a while since I read it though. And it was a translation, but I   
   doubt they would make /that/ kind of mistake.   
   Although they made some HUGE mistakes in the translation of the TWOK   
   novel. Like 'lasers' in stead of 'phasers', and they called Spock a   
   chief Engineer in the beginning of the novel. Highly annoying!   
      
      
   >    
   >   
   > [Orbital Office Complex]   
   > Kirk beams up.   
   >   
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   > Everything else is rumour and supposition, and a smattering of possible   
   > facts.   
   >   
   > *Nogura's office complex set was built.  When the scene was scrapped, it   
   > was scheduled to be filmed the next day.   
   >   
   > I've never believed this, because there's no record of who was cast as   
   > Nogura, and there would be costume fittings and wardrobe photographs.   
   > There's no way they were filming it the next day.  I've never seen set   
   > photos of Nogura's office either, although I've heard they exist.   
      
      
   No story boards either?   
      
      
   >   
   > All this was cut because The Shat didn't want Kirk to appear weak, and   
   > had Wise' ear.  I have no data on that claim.   
   >   
   > It's unknown as to why Ciani was beaming up to the Enterprise at all;   
   > she wasn't a crew replacement.  It would have been nice if she'd been in   
   > that cool dress uniform The Shat was in.   
   >   
   > All this sets up the scripted end of the film, where Kirk saves the   
   > world with the world watching, knows Nogura can't deny him anything, and   
   > takes the Enterprise while Nogura's down there yelling for them to come   
   > back.  We finally got a version of that ending with Star Trek VI.   
   >   
      
   Or IV?   
      
      
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