XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho   
   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article <10gbrpp$29rsc$1@dont-email.me>,   
   solar penguin   wrote:   
   >   
   >The True loon’s lack of logic loomed larger:   
   >   
   >> On 26/11/2025 09:23, solar penguin wrote:   
   >   
   >You forgot to change it to ‘solar imbecile’! Please try harder!   
   >   
      
   Funny bird.   
      
   >>>   
   >>> The True loon twisted himself into loops:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 25/11/2025 12:19, solar penguin wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Who says the laser reflectors, moon buggies, etc. were   
   >>>>> still in the same positions as before? I don’t remember that   
   >>>>> in the episode.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Because that's where they are now   
   >>>   
   >>> But will they continue to be there after 2049?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> We were shown images of the face of the re-formed moon with the exact   
   >> same craters in the exact same places they are now.   
   >>   
   >   
   >And that is a real problem with the episode. The craters aren’t   
   >a natural part of the moon, but the result of meteors hitting it.   
   >   
   >You should’ve gone with that instead of nonsense about NASA’s   
   >lunar junk.   
   >   
   >>>> If they were so much as a millimetre out of place then the whole   
   >>>> world would have been completely unrecognisable.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> I think the other events of the episode would change the world   
   >>> far more than the position of some lunar junk.   
   >>   
   >> Wrong. You demonstrate that you have no understanding of Chaos Theory.   
   >>   
   >   
   >You demonstrate that you have no understanding of your own   
   >posts. Further down you ask: “Why wasn't the Earth thrown out   
   >of orbit and ripped apart by earthquakes and huge tidal waves   
   >and tsunamis when 90% of the mass of the moon flew away?”   
   >   
   >That would have a _much_ bigger effect than NASA no longer   
   >knowing where its moon junk is!   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> Did RTD specifically say that Liz Shaw was on the moon during   
   >>> the specific events of this specific episode?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> He said she was based on the Moon during the Sarah Jane Adventures.   
   >>   
   >>> And if he did, how did he know? This was long after he left the   
   >>> show. His personal opinion doesn’t change anything.   
   >>   
   >> It's mentioned at the end of the SJA episode he wrote featuring Matt Smith.   
   >>   
   >   
   >That was around 2010. ‘Kill the Moon’ is set in 2049. This gives   
   >Liz nearly 40 years to return from the moon and die of old age   
   >or whatever.   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> With all the real problems in that episode, why make up   
   >>>>> fake ones?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It's not a fake one. Any episode where you gain wight in free fall   
   >>>> instead of becoming weightless violates the laws of physics, and   
   >>>> therefore this episode is not part of Doctor Who.   
   >>>   
   >>> That’s a _different_ problem. It has nothing to do with lunar junk   
   >>> or Liz Shaw.   
   >>   
   >> It's still a problem with the episode   
   >   
   >And you should’ve gone with that instead of your made-up   
   >fake problems.   
   >   
   >> which means that nothing from that   
   >> episode onwards can be considered to have actually happened.   
   >   
   >No, it means that this was a disappointing episode. In a show   
   >that’s lasted as long as Doctor Who, there are always bound to   
   >be some disappointing episodes, just by the law of averages.   
   >   
   >> There is no possible way to suspend disbelief.   
   >>   
   >   
   >Your imagination is too small. I can think of at least two ways   
   >to do it.   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> (It’s also another fake problem. Doctor Who has been violating   
   >>> physics ever since that police box turned out to be bigger on   
   >>> the inside! Why start making a fuss about it now?)   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> The reason why the TARDIS is bigger on the inside has been explained   
   >> multiple times including at the start of The Robots of Death, therefore   
   >> there is suspension of disbelief. It also does not affect anything on   
   >> Earth.   
   >>   
   >   
   >So a bit of handwaving technobabble years after the problem is   
   >enough to solve it.   
   >   
   >If a future episode has a line saying that space dragons’ ovaries   
   >extend into a parallel dimension, would that be enough to bring   
   >‘Kill the Moon’ and everything that follows back into canon?   
   >   
   >> Why wasn't the Earth thrown out of orbit and ripped apart by earthquakes   
   >> and huge tidal waves and tsunamis when 90% of the mass of the moon flew   
   >> away?   
   >   
   >Yes, that’s a real problem. You should’ve gone with that instead   
   >of Liz Shaw and NASA’s junk.   
   >   
      
   Picky bird.   
      
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