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   Daniel70 to The True Doctor   
   Re: The War Between the Land and the Sea   
   23 Dec 25 23:05:13   
   
   From: daniel47@nomail.afraid.org   
      
   On 8/12/2025 6:35 pm, The True Doctor wrote:   
      
   (Remembering I've yet to see this series!!)   
      
   > I was considering posting two separate reviews but since the first   
   > two episodes of TWBLS were shown back-to-back and the writing and   
   > directing is the most horrendous, amateurish, childish, and   
   > insulting I have ever seen, and consists of nothing more than a thin   
   > veil for a woke lecture filled with unsubstantiated lies and   
   > propaganda I'm going to review them both together.   
   >   
   > I'm will review this story written by Pete McTighe and created by   
   > Russel T Davies in comparison to Interstellar by Christopher Nolan   
   > since both contain an environmentalist message.   
   >   
   > While one is well written and the environmentalist message, which   
   > easily falls apart on careful consideration, is simply there to set   
   > up a situation where the human race needs to colonise extra   
   > terrestrial planets in order to survive, ushered on by a seemingly   
   > alien but in actuality Earth originating intelligence, serves the   
   > science fiction which always takes precedence and does not seek to   
   > be woke or lecture the audience, the other is pure degenerate woke   
   > lecturing spreading downright lies, mistruths, and misinformation,   
   > using science fiction as as a means to capture an audience and   
   > indoctrinate them with a one sided false narrative which overwhelms   
   > everting, resulting in the most appalling, infantile, and totally   
   > horrendous and insulting writing I have ever witnessed by a clueless   
   > and talentless soap opera hack and political play-write who is   
   > incapable of writing any better then an undedicated infant.   
   >   
   > It all tarts off with a humanoid fish lizard being caught up in a   
   > fishing trawler’s nets in the Mediterranean and as soon as the   
   > fishermen see it they shoot it dead. Why are these fishermen   
   > carrying guns on a fishing boat in the middle of the Med? Why have   
   > they got them already pointing at the fish lizard the moment the nets   
   > are pulled up? It's as if they were deliberately hunting the fish   
   > lizard to begin with. Why isn't this explained? Why have the   
   > fishermen caught the fish lizard? Is it by accident or design? The   
   > writing is absolute shit from the very beginning as is the   
   > directing.   
   >   
   > The shooting of this fish lizard and then another causes other fish   
   > lizards to retaliate by killing two humans in revenge. Why? We still   
   > don't know if the fish lizards were first hunted down and then killed   
   > or not. The writing is total garbage. More about garbage later.   
   >   
   > Then the fish lizards all decide to reveal themselves to mankind   
   > because apparently as we learn later two of their hatchlings have   
   > been killed by pollution in the oceans. Like this is only supposed   
   > to have only ever happened now and not before? Humanity went by for   
   > hundreds of thousands of years, decades, centuries polluting the   
   > seas and oceans and no fish lizards ever died as a result of it until   
   > now? The writing is absolute excrement, just like the plot. Even the   
   > fish lizards complain about the excrement in the seas. What about   
   > their excrement? Don't fish shit in the water as they swim? Total   
   > hypocrisy.   
   >   
   > Oh, did I mention that these fish lizards can also fluidly change   
   > gender as they choose? I think I predicted they would months ago.   
      
   So what?? This sex change thing happens in the Real World .... in some   
   fish/aquatic species, as it happens!   
      
   > So the fish lizards want to communicate with mankind and we are   
   > subjected to 20 minutes of insulting padding showing attempts at   
   > translating their language or squeals, and newscasts documenting   
   > their appearances.   
      
   So THEY have to learn how to communicate with us .... not us learning   
   how to communicate with them!!   
      
   > This is totally unnecessary exposition which tells us nothing about   
   > the non-existent plot or motivations of the fish lizards or humans.   
   >   
   > An imbecilic, socially inept effeminate moron played played by the   
   > gay actor Russell Tovey is chosen by accident to be the ambassador   
   > for mankind.   
      
   Hey, Aggy, aren't Actors supposed to be able to ACT, you know, to   
   portray characters that they aren't!!   
      
   > The degenerate hypocrite Russell T Davies told everyone that only   
   > gay actors were suitable for playing the roles of gay characters, so   
   > why has an unconvincing gay actor playing what would appear to be a   
   > heterosexual character been inflicted on the audience?   
      
   Maybe none of the heterosexual actors wanted to work for Gay Russell.   
      
   > After he is activated by UNIT, Tovey is shown being woken up by what   
   > appears to be an obese mixed race male character who at first I   
   > believed to be his male lover.   
      
   Aren't obese male characters allowed to be mixed race??   
      
   > Then he drives off with this character who is about the same height   
   > as him to this black woman's house,   
      
   Aren't black women allowed to own houses??   
      
   > and I start to question if this character is actually male when she   
   > starts embracing the other black woman. What the fuck is going on?   
   > Are they lesbians? Bisexual? A manage a trois?   
      
   Does it really matter, Aggy??   
      
   > Oh, so she's supposed to be his daughter? Why the fuck doesn't she   
   > even look like him? I thought he was gay. He acts and behaves like   
   > he's gay.   
      
   Maybe he was a semen donor, Aggy.   
      
   > Haven't the producers and director got a clue how to cast people in   
   > appropriate roles so they look convincing?   
   >   
   > Now we come to Interstellar.   
      
   Your summary of 'Interstellar' didn't agree with my recollections so I had   
   a look through my DVD's cause I thought I had it .... but it seems I   
   didn't .... so can't really comment on your recollections of 'Interstellar'.   
      
   > Interstellar was about the main protagonist's relationship with his   
   > daughter. Everything was written around that relationship and from   
   > the characterisation of the daughter and the main protagonist’s son   
   > and their grandfather and their relationships with each other you   
   > could predict everything that followed in the plot, every motivation   
   > for why they did what they did and why they did it and even what   
   > they ending would be, in the first 5 minutes.   
      
   Well, I suppose that saves you watching the other 2hrs or so of the   
   movie, ah.   
      
   > Those relationships were embedded into the plot in order to serve   
   > and evolve the plot and were all necessary. In contrast there is no   
   > plot development, characterisation or character development at all   
   > concerning Tovey's daughter or apparently ex-wife. They serve no   
      
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