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   XPost: soc.culture.baltics, soc.culture.czecho-slovak, soc.culture.russian   
   From: ddfr@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com   
      
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    holman@mappi.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote:   
      
   > In article <4892b552@clear.net.nz>, "Paul J Kriha"   
   >  wrote:   
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   > > Eugene Holman wrote:   
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   > > Next, you'll be telling us that Gengis Khan was just a chairman of   
   > > a finely-coordinated socialist army collective.   
   >   
   > No I won't. However I would certainly maintain that without a   
   > well-disciplined army trained to think in terms of a hierachically   
   > organized collective rather than as individuals furthering their own   
   > personal interests, his Mongol hordes could never have achieved the   
   > military conquests that they did.   
      
   I don't know enough about the Mongols to judge whether that is correct,   
   but it is a very poor description of the Norse, for whom we have   
   extensive first hand evidence in the sagas. They weren't strong on   
   hierarchically organized collectives.   
      
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