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   XPost: soc.culture.baltics, soc.culture.czecho-slovak, soc.culture.russian   
   From: holman@mappi.helsinki.fi   
      
   In article , James A. Donald   
    wrote:   
      
   > Eugene Holman:   
   > > The Finns were trading as capitalists, with profit in   
   > > the monetary sense as the ultimate criterion for   
   > > judging whether what they were doing was rational or   
   > > not.   
   >   
   > Firstly it was not businessmen making these decisions   
      
   Yes it was. The industrial infrastructure was privately financed and   
   privately owned. The businessmen and shareholders were the ones making the   
   decisions concerning if and how it was to be used after the reprations had   
   been paid.   
      
   > Secondly, if the trade profitable, why only conducted in   
   > this manner with a country the Soviets could threaten   
   > and which had previously submitted to threats.   
      
   The Soviets were not threatening Finland, quite the opposite. The two   
   countries had signed an agreement in 1948 according to which their   
   relationships would enter a new era in which threats were no longer part   
   of it. The Soviets invested a considerable amount of energy to trumpeting   
   to the world that it and Finland could peacefully coexist despite their   
   bitter recent history, different socio-economic systems, and disparity in   
   size in population.   
      
   > If   
   > profitable to Finland, why could the Soviets not make   
   > similar deals with countries that did not have Soviet   
   > troops just across their border that might come in   
   > unopposed at any moment?   
      
   Because, with the exception of Norway and Finland, all the other contries   
   along the western rim of the USSR had communist governments that were   
   usually, although not always, ready to dance to the tune played by the   
   Soviets. As we all know well, the USSR invaded East Germany, Hungary, and   
   Czechoslovakia, and almost did the same thing to Poland, when those   
   countries resisted or went foul of Soviet policies. In Romania, Nicolae   
   Ceasescu regularly told the Soviets to go to hell, but the Soviets were   
   not imprudent enough to invade, because they knew that such a move would   
   not be worth the effort.   
      
   Although it was a dictatorship, the Soviet Union was ruled by rational,   
   conservative men whose primary concern uring the 1950s, 1960s, and even   
   1970s was rebuilding the country after its western part had been   
   devastated and between 25,000,000 and 30,000,000 of its citizens killed.   
   Its three invasions of fwllow communist countries were limited joint (with   
   the Warsaw Pact) operations that were settled by putting a local man in   
   place (Ulbricht, Kadár, Husak) who would answer to Moscow more than to the   
   needs of the population.   
      
   > > The Soviet were trading as ideologically committed   
   > > communists trying to make a point to the world:   
   > > countries with different socio-economic systems can   
   > > coexist and mutually benefit from their relationship.   
   >   
   > If that was the deal, then why not make such a deal with   
   > countries that they were wooing, and were in no position   
   > to rape?   
      
   They were in no position to rape Finland because that would have pulled   
   the legs out from under their entire foreign policy and credibility. Their   
   foreign trade with other non-communist countries was on a far less planned   
   or comprehensive basis for various reasons. With the countries of COMECON   
   they had a barter-like system based on absurd and varying exchange rates   
   for their non-convertible currencies. Oil traded at one ruble exchange   
   rate, agricultural products for another, etc. The clearing-dollar-based   
   Finnish-Soviet trade regime was far simpler than anything the Soviets were   
   running with their allies in COMECON.   
      
   Regards,   
   Eugene Holman   
      
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