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   =?Windows-1252?Q?Markku_Gr=F6nroos? to All   
   Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is bet   
   15 Aug 08 11:30:46   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.baltics, soc.culture.czecho-slovak, soc.culture.russian   
   XPost: soc.culture.nordic   
   From: kurkku@hassuserveri.fi   
      
   "David Friedman"  kirjoitti   
   viestissä:ddfr-A6236C.16183014082008@CA.NEWS.VERIO.NET...   
   > In article ,   
   > Markku Grönroos  wrote:   
   >   
   >> "David Friedman"  kirjoitti   
   >> viestissä:ddfr-EB3686.11101914082008@CA.NEWS.VERIO.NET...   
   >> >   
   >> > 2. Your evidence that he is barmy mostly consists of his holding views   
   >> > that disagree with yours.   
   >> >   
   >> No, that is not the point. He has been told by people who know about the   
   >> Finno Soviet trade that what he says about it is baloney. Skim the thread   
   >> from the start and you will see the light.   
   >   
   > On Usenet (or elsewhere) the fact that one has been told something does   
   > not imply that it is true. James corrected one error, although it took   
   > him a while. But, so far as I can tell, the question of whether the   
   > trade was actually biased in favor of Finland or in favor of Russia is   
   > still open, despite confident assertions of the former.   
   >   
   The trade was very profitable to the Finns.   
      
   >> > 3. Your evidence that he is very ill ...  .   
   >> >   
   >> What more evidence you need apart from what he has crossposted to these   
   >> groups. He illuminates insanity. Should be apparent to anyone following   
   >> this   
   >> thread.   
   >   
   > I think not.   
   >   
   I suppose you are a rare piece in this respect.   
   >   
   > On the contrary. You have forgotten it, since your posts contain little   
   > or nothing on that subject, just repeated assertions that James is crazy   
   > and homosexual, plus irrelevant digressions on the U.S.   
   >> > ...   
   Alright then. What makes you believe that the trade was unprofitable to the   
   Finns?   
   >   
   > I suspect that you see the argument as your group being the Finns, the   
   > other group being Americans, and the argument a fancy version of   
   > "Americans are better than Finns. No, Finns are better than Americans.   
   > No, Americans are ...  ," which would be a good deal less interesting   
   > and educational than what people in the thread have actually been   
   > arguing about. But no doubt other interpretations are possible.   
   >   
   So, there is more that one American barmy around then.   
   >> >   
   >> Unfavourable and horse manure are two different things. Finns profited a   
   >> lot   
   >> about the bilateral trade between the Soviet Union.   
   >   
   > Perhaps--but that's assertion, not evidence or argument.   
   >   
   Your problem is not ignorance on the Finno Soviet trade but mental illness.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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