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   From: ddfr@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com   
      
   In article ,   
    Markku Grönroos  wrote:   
      
   > "David Friedman"  kirjoitti   
   > viestissä:ddfr-650586.13174417082008@CA.NEWS.VERIO.NET...   
   > > In article ,   
   > > Markku Grönroos  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> >   
   > >> >> Should the   
   > >> >> Finns have sold pulp worth a few hundred milliard dollars via "usual   
   > >> >> channels"? All the Americans had drowned in the smelly stuff.   
   > >> >   
   > >> > Are you suggesting that the Finns, in order to pay for airplanes, sold   
   > >> >   
   > >> It stands there quite clearly what I said. [The] amount is a magnitude   
   > >> too   
   > >> high but that is irrelevant.   
   > >   
   > > Your statement is false by an order of magnitude (actually almost two),   
   > > but that doesn't matter?   
   > >   
   > > To you.   
   > >   
   > The essence is that there were no "usual"channels broad enough to meet the   
   > demand. If there had been, they would have been utilized. Simply so.   
      
   I ask "why did they do it this way." You answer "they did it this way   
   because they couldn't do it in the alternative way." I ask "how do you   
   know." You answer "because they did it this way." And that's your only   
   answer, because you have no actual facts about the scale of the   
   ransaction or the available channels, as demonstrated when your version   
   of the real numbers involved turned out to be off by two orders of   
   magnitude   
      
   Do you see something a bit circular in your argument?   
      
   A little googling finds that, as of 1996, Finland's exports of wood pulp   
   totaled 4.5% of world exports, behind Canada, the U.S., Sweden, Brazil,   
   and Chile. So it hardly seems likely that their exports were large   
   enough to swamp existing channels for selling pulp.   
      
   You might find that looking at facts, instead of inventing them to fit   
   your guesses, improved the fit between your beliefs and the real world.   
      
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