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   Message 1,565 of 3,290   
   David Friedman to Suzanne Blom   
   Re: Gifts vs. Money   
   21 Aug 08 13:58:45   
   
   From: ddfr@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com   
      
   In article ,   
    "Suzanne Blom"  wrote:   
      
   > "James A. Donald"  wrote in message   
   > news:1jfqa4dpm78oqujcfu9dnck0orrt2qo6b0@4ax.com...   
   > > "James A. Donald"   
   > >> > Ducks, like men, sometimes rape, and sometimes   
   > >> > follow elaborate courtship rituals.   
   > >> >   
   > >> > Indeed, the same is true of every mammal and most   
   > >> > birds   
   > >   
   > > "Suzanne Blom"   
   > >> Since this contradicts everything I have read, do you   
   > >> have sources?   
   > >   
   > > Randy Thornhill "A natural history of rape", reports   
   > > that male imposition of forced copulation occurs in most   
   > > species.  The standard rebuttal to "a natural history of   
   > > rape" goes "It is known that rape is widespread   
   > > throughout the animal kingdom, or something resembling   
   > > mating by forceful coercion at any rate, but ...."   
   > >   
   > Okay, now that you mention Thornhill I do remember the flap about his book,   
   > mostly people going, "Um, not really."   
      
   "Most people" presumably meaning most people who agree with you and   
   disagree with him.   
      
   > Still, it's a source, so for your   
   > version of reality, I guess that will suffice.   Please understand, though,   
   > that this is not the reality I live in.   
      
   The reality you live in being one in which all of Eurasia is and always   
   has been, at least as far back as we have reliable historical   
   information, a single society.   
      
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