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   =?Windows-1252?Q?Markku_Gr=F6nroos? to All   
   Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is bet   
   22 Aug 08 12:17:57   
   
   From: kurkku@hassuserveri.fi   
      
   "James A. Donald"  kirjoitti   
   viestissä:fqvsa497jd5pt3naon3tjesmon6cl3s2u4@4ax.com...   
   > Anton:   
   >> I suspect it was the new "thaw" introduced by Mikhail   
   >> Gorbachev which ended up in people gathering enough   
   >> courage to resist the authorities. If communism fell   
   >> because of proxy wars outside europe, where is the   
   >> evidence?   
   >   
   > The timing is suggestive - the satellites started   
   > getting frisky immediately following soviet defeat.   
   >   
   > Governments only exist in people's imagination.  They   
   > stand because people think them invincible.  Like paper   
   > money, they are real because people believe them to be   
   > real.  A government falls when enough people disbelieve   
   > that others start disbelieving also.   
   >   
   > Defeat makes it a great deal easier to believe a   
   > government is vincible.   
   >   
   > --   
   >  ----------------------   
   > We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because   
   > of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this   
   > right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.   
   >   
   > http://www.jim.com/      James A. Donald   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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