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   Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is bet   
   22 Aug 08 18:34:39   
   
   From: kurkku@hassuserveri.fi   
      
   "David Friedman"  kirjoitti   
   viestissä:ddfr-DFD48C.08283522082008@CA.NEWS.VERIO.NET...   
   > In article ,   
   > Anton  wrote:   
   >   
   >> James A. Donald kirjoitti:   
   >> > Anton:   
   >> >> I suspect it was the new "thaw" introduced by Mikhail   
   >> >> Gorbachev which ended up in people gathering enough   
   >> >> courage to resist the authorities. If communism fell   
   >> >> because of proxy wars outside europe, where is the   
   >> >> evidence?   
   >>   
   >> > The timing is suggestive - the satellites started   
   >> > getting frisky immediately following soviet defeat.   
   >>   
   >> The Soviet Union was defeted by the people in the USSR and its   
   >> satellites.   
   >   
   > Events rarely have only a single cause. The Soviet Union wouldn't have   
   > fallen without the actions of such people. But there are presumably   
   > reasons why those people acted that way when they did, and the   
   > equivalent people didn't bring down the Soviet union a decade, or two   
   > decades, or three decades earlier. Whether James is correct about what   
   > those reasons were I don't know.   
   >   
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