From: b.scott@csuohio.edu   
      
   On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:50:28 +1000, "James A. Donald"   
    wrote in   
    in   
   rec.arts.sf.misc:   
      
   > Zeborah:   
      
   >> you scolded her that, 'It's not anyone's understanding of   
   >> "Western Civilization" that it includes Japan, Mongolia,   
   >> and Ceylon, and always has. Yet that is what you are   
   >> arguing.'   
      
   > When challenged that societies that we know enough about   
   > are more inimical to women than Western Civilization is,   
   > she lumped them all into western civilization -   
      
   No, she didn't.  'Western civilization' and 'a pan-Eurasian   
   society' are two very different things.  Indeed, Zeborah has   
   explained this at some length, and your failure to address   
   her explanation while repeating David F.'s error is both   
   stupid and dishonest.   
      
   Note, by the way, that I'm *not* inclined to see a   
   pan-Eurasian society, even in the loose sense that Suzanne   
   has in mind.  That doesn't keep me from understanding what   
   she's actually saying, howver.   
      
   > for which she deserved to be scolded.   
      
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