From: kurkku@hassuserveri.fi   
      
   "James A. Donald"  kirjoitti   
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   > James A. Donald:   
   >> >>> The Hungarians tried on stuff that had previously   
   >> >>> led to war. They took risk of war.  When war did   
   >> >>> not eventuate, everyone joined in.   
   >   
   > Anton   
   >> > > Tell us something we don't know.   
   >   
   > James A. Donald :   
   >> > To spell it out for you.  The risk of war was less   
   >> > because the Soviets had already suffered some   
   >> > military defeats, and the possibility of winning the   
   >> > war, should war ensue, was greater.   
   >> >   
   >> > Thus the military defeats the Soviets suffered   
   >> > encouraged the Hungarians to defy the Soviets.   
   >   
   > Anton   
   >> Again you are talking without knowing the facts:   
   >> Hungary happened in *1956*, and that particular   
   >> rebellion was crushed.   
   >   
   > In May 1988, immediately after the Soviet withdrawal   
   > from Afghanistan began, Hungary had another go at doing   
   > the things it tried in 1956 - they took a big risk of   
   > war, but this time was not crushed.   
   >   
   > They reason they were willing to take this risk is that   
   > they judged that war was less likely, and if war ensued,   
   > victory more feasible.  They took this gamble within   
   > days of the Soviet Union's withdrawal from Afghanistan   
   > beginning.  The connection is direct and obvious.   
   >   
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   > We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because   
   > of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this   
   > right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.   
   >   
   > http://www.jim.com/      James A. Donald   
      
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