From: jclarke.usenet@cox.net   
      
   Brian M. Scott wrote:   
   > On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:29:34 -0400, "J. Clarke"   
   >  wrote in   
   >  in rec.arts.sf.misc:   
   >   
   >> Brian M. Scott wrote:   
   >   
   >>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:32:43 -0400, "J. Clarke"   
   >>>  wrote in   
   >>>  in rec.arts.sf.misc:   
   >   
   >>>> David Friedman wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>> In article <6lfpvlFc5jg1U2@mid.individual.net>,   
   >>>>>  "John F. Eldredge"  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:40:56 -0400, Brian M. Scott wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:14:47 -0400, "J. Clarke"   
   >>>>>>>  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>  in rec.arts.sf.misc:   
   >   
   >>>>>>> [...]   
   >   
   >>>>>>>> Personally I don't smoke, but I think that the way the   
   >>>>>>>> US handles smoking is just another example of   
   >>>>>>>> Puritanism running amok.   
   >   
   >>>>>>> Prohibition was arguably Puritanism running amok; this   
   >>>>>>> is a different motivation altogether.   
   >   
   >>>>>> True.  As long as a drunk is not operating a motor   
   >>>>>> vehicle, the  risk to those nearby is fairly small.  On   
   >>>>>> the other hand, most forms of tobacco use give those   
   >>>>>> nearby a dose as well, whether they want it or not.   
   >   
   >>>>> And while one can argue about the medical effects of   
   >>>>> second hand smoke, the unpleasantness for non-smokers is   
   >>>>> unambiguous.   
   >   
   >>>> It's basically an excuse for do-gooders to impose their will on   
   >>>> others.   
   >   
   >>> No, it isn't.  I'm sure that in some cases that plays a   
   >>> role, but it's basically a public health measure.   
   >   
   >> That's a rationalization, not a reason.   
   >   
   > It's manifestly a reason.  You may consider it an   
   > insufficient reason, but denying that it's a reason merely   
   > makes you look stupid or ignorant.   
      
   OK, what is the public health benefit?  I want to see _numbers_ and I   
   want to indpendent, peer reviewed replication of the research on which   
   those numbers are based.   
      
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