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   Zeborah to Graham Woodland   
   Re: Pride and Privilege [WAS: Re: Draggi   
   22 Feb 09 21:14:48   
   
   From: zeborah@gmail.com   
      
   Graham Woodland  wrote:   
      
   > [ultimately in response to:]   
      
   No, *ultimately* in response to me pointing out that not everyone in the   
   world has heard of Daniel Boone.  Dude, *seriously*.  First I say that   
   just because one hasn't heard of Daniel Boone, doesn't mean one is an   
   alien; and promptly I'm accused of anti-American prejudice; and suddenly   
   the conversation is all about:   
      
      
   >I don't consider the   
   > resulting fuel given to the Whites Is Persecuted crowd as even   
   > faintly conducive to the safety of the black branch of my family,   
   > so one way and another, I have some reason to consider attempts   
   > to set off privilege against prejudice an active threat to me,   
   > *all* of mine one way or another, and most of my neighbours.   
      
   Privilege need not be set against prejudice; most discussion about both   
   that I've read online frames things in terms of intersectionality, so   
   that I, for example, am privileged because I'm white *at the same time*   
   as I miss out on male privilege *at the same time* as I miss out on   
   American privilege *at the same time* as I am privileged by being a   
   native English speaker, and so forth.   
      
   Aqua wasn't setting one against the other.  She was responding to the   
   way Remus did (and he did so extremely successfully, I might add,   
   managing to completely derail the conversation from American privilege   
   and getting everyone else to argue with each other while he wanders   
   elsewhere with his hands clean.  --Well bugger this, then.  I'm Somewhat   
   Annoyed about being labelled with anti-American prejudice(1), but I'm   
   not playing into the "zomg, but what about reverse prejudice and, and,   
   and, where will it all end?!!11eleventy-one" game.   
      
   NB lack of end parenthesis.   
      
   Zeborah   
   (1) I do not deny *having* anti-American prejudice.  But I don't believe   
   I displayed it in that post.   
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