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From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
David Johnston wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> David Johnston wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> George Orwell predicted the surveillance society.
>>>>>>>> But got it utterly wrong with lots of the detail.
>>>>>>>> We didn't even see much of Animal Farm in the west.
>>>>>>> Since Animal Farm was a depiction of the history of the Soviet
>>>>>>> Union, why would you expect to?
>>>>>> It clearly was warning that that might happen in the west too.
>>>>> I don't find that clear at all. The message I got was "The
>>>>> Bolsheviks are just as bad as the capitalists of the west".
>>>> In fact nothing even remotely like the capitalists of the west on that.
>>> I perceive that you know nothing about Orwell's politics.
>> You're wrong
> Hm. Maybe I am. On consideration it could be more accurate to say that
> that Orwell was saying that the Bolsheviks are just as bad as the fascists
> of the west. The Francos, Hitlers and Mussolinis.
That isnt really what Animal Farm was saying either.
None of those were ever silly enough to
try claiming that everyone was equal.
We did see quite a bit of that with the left in the west, but not with the
fascists
who were much more about nothing even remotely like everyone being equal
even with just the ideology rather than the reality that was achieved.
We did see quite a bit of the deliberate fudging of the original
rather absolute rules into a lot less than the original with the
left in the west too. Not so much with the fascists who were
much more about just doing whatever they felt like without
farting around with formal policy rules.
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