XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.science, alt.sci.physics.new-theories   
   XPost: sci.physics   
   From: David@block.net   
      
   On 1/15/2014 7:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   > David Johnston  wrote   
   >> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>> George Orwell predicted the surveillance society.   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>> But got it utterly wrong with lots of the detail.   
   >>>>>>>>> We didn't even see much of Animal Farm in the west.   
   >   
   >>>>>>>> Since Animal Farm was a depiction of the history of the Soviet   
   >>>>>>>> Union, why would you expect to?   
   >   
   >>>>>>> It clearly was warning that that might happen in the west too.   
   >   
   >>>>>> I don't find that clear at all.  The message I got was "The   
   >>>>>> Bolsheviks are just as bad as the capitalists of the west".   
   >   
   >>>>> In fact nothing even remotely like the capitalists of the west on   
   >>>>> that.   
   >   
   >>>> I perceive that you know nothing about Orwell's politics.   
   >   
   >>> You're wrong   
   >   
   >> Hm.  Maybe I am.  On consideration it could be more accurate to say   
   >> that that Orwell was saying that the Bolsheviks are just as bad as the   
   >> fascists of the west.  The Francos, Hitlers and Mussolinis.   
   >   
   > That isnt really what Animal Farm was saying either.   
   >   
   > None of those were ever silly enough to   
   > try claiming that everyone was equal.   
      
   The humans DON"T say that everyone is equal.  That's what the pigs say,   
   but they lie.   
      
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