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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   David Johnston  wrote   
   > Rod Speed wrote   
   >> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>> George Orwell predicted the surveillance society.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>> But got it utterly wrong with lots of the detail.   
   >>>>>>>>>> We didn't even see much of Animal Farm in the west.   
      
   >>>>>>>>> Since Animal Farm was a depiction of the history of the Soviet   
   >>>>>>>>> Union, why would you expect to?   
      
   >>>>>>>> It clearly was warning that that might happen in the west too.   
      
   >>>>>>> I don't find that clear at all.  The message I got was "The   
   >>>>>>> Bolsheviks are just as bad as the capitalists of the west".   
      
   >>>>>> In fact nothing even remotely like the capitalists of the west on   
   >>>>>> that.   
      
   >>>>> I perceive that you know nothing about Orwell's politics.   
      
   >>>> You're wrong   
      
   >>> Hm.  Maybe I am.  On consideration it could be more accurate to say that   
   >>> that Orwell was saying that the Bolsheviks are just as bad as the   
   >>> fascists of the west.  The Francos, Hitlers and Mussolinis.   
      
   >> That isnt really what Animal Farm was saying either.   
      
   >> None of those were ever silly enough to   
   >> try claiming that everyone was equal.   
      
   > The humans DON"T say that everyone is equal.  That's what the pigs say,   
   > but they lie.   
      
   I didn't say anything about who said it.   
      
   It was clearly something that some in the west were claiming.   
      
   So Animal Farm wasn't just about Russia.   
      
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