XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.science, alt.sci.physics.new-theories   
   XPost: sci.physics   
   From: David@block.net   
      
   On 1/16/2014 11:23 AM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   > David Johnston  wrote   
   >> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> George Orwell predicted the surveillance society.   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>> But got it utterly wrong with lots of the detail.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> We didn't even see much of Animal Farm in the west.   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>> Since Animal Farm was a depiction of the history of the Soviet   
   >>>>>>>>>> Union, why would you expect to?   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>> It clearly was warning that that might happen in the west too.   
   >   
   >>>>>>>> I don't find that clear at all.  The message I got was "The   
   >>>>>>>> Bolsheviks are just as bad as the capitalists of the west".   
   >   
   >>>>>>> In fact nothing even remotely like the capitalists of the west on   
   >>>>>>> that.   
   >   
   >>>>>> I perceive that you know nothing about Orwell's politics.   
   >   
   >>>>> You're wrong   
   >   
   >>>> Hm.  Maybe I am.  On consideration it could be more accurate to say   
   >>>> that that Orwell was saying that the Bolsheviks are just as bad as   
   >>>> the fascists of the west.  The Francos, Hitlers and Mussolinis.   
   >   
   >>> That isnt really what Animal Farm was saying either.   
   >   
   >>> None of those were ever silly enough to   
   >>> try claiming that everyone was equal.   
   >   
   >> The humans DON"T say that everyone is equal.  That's what the pigs   
   >> say, but they lie.   
   >   
   > I didn't say anything about who said it.   
      
   Then you didn't say anything relevant.   
      
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