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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   David Johnston  wrote   
   > Rod Speed wrote   
   >> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>>>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>>>>>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Orwell predicted the surveillance society.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But got it utterly wrong with lots of the detail.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't even see much of Animal Farm in the west.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Animal Farm was a depiction of the history   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Soviet Union, why would you expect to?   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>> It clearly was warning that that might happen in the west too.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>> I don't find that clear at all.  The message I got was "The   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Bolsheviks are just as bad as the capitalists of the west".   
      
   >>>>>>>>>> In fact nothing even remotely like the capitalists of the west   
   >>>>>>>>>> on that.   
      
   >>>>>>>>> I perceive that you know nothing about Orwell's politics.   
      
   >>>>>>>> You're wrong   
      
   >>>>>>> Hm.  Maybe I am.  On consideration it could be more accurate to say   
   >>>>>>> that that Orwell was saying that the Bolsheviks are just as bad as   
   >>>>>>> the fascists of the west.  The Francos, Hitlers and Mussolinis.   
      
   >>>>>> That isnt really what Animal Farm was saying either.   
      
   >>>>>> None of those were ever silly enough to   
   >>>>>> try claiming that everyone was equal.   
      
   >>>>> The humans DON"T say that everyone is equal.   
   >>>>> That's what the pigs say, but they lie.   
      
   >>>> I didn't say anything about who said it.   
      
   >>> Then you didn't say anything relevant.   
      
   >> Says he carefully deleting what was relevant, again.   
      
   > No.  It wasn't.   
      
   Corse it was with the left in the west being into that equal stuff.   
      
   Your claim that it was just about what happened in Russia is   
   just plain wrong.   
      
   Same with the fudging of the initial rules into something completely   
   different when it suited the animals that ruled the roost.   
      
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