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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   David Johnston  wrote   
   > Rod Speed wrote   
   >> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>>>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>>>>>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>> David Johnston  wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Orwell predicted the surveillance society.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But got it utterly wrong with lots of the detail.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't even see much of Animal Farm in the west.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Animal Farm was a depiction of the history of the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soviet Union, why would you expect to?   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It clearly was warning that that might happen in the west   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't find that clear at all.  The message I got was "The   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bolsheviks are just as bad as the capitalists of the west".   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>> In fact nothing even remotely like the capitalists of the west   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> on that.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>> I perceive that you know nothing about Orwell's politics.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>> You're wrong   
      
   >>>>>>>>> Hm.  Maybe I am.  On consideration it could be more accurate to   
   >>>>>>>>> say that that Orwell was saying that the Bolsheviks are just as   
   >>>>>>>>> bad as the fascists of the west.  The Francos, Hitlers and   
   >>>>>>>>> Mussolinis.   
      
   >>>>>>>> That isnt really what Animal Farm was saying either.   
      
   >>>>>>>> None of those were ever silly enough to   
   >>>>>>>> try claiming that everyone was equal.   
      
   >>>>>>> The humans DON"T say that everyone is equal. That's what the pigs   
   >>>>>>> say, but they lie.   
      
   >>>>>> I didn't say anything about who said it.   
      
   >>>>> Then you didn't say anything relevant.   
      
   >>>> Says he carefully deleting what was relevant, again.   
      
   >>> No.  It wasn't.   
      
   >> Corse it was with the left in the west being into that equal stuff.   
   >> Your claim that it was just about what happened in Russia is   
   >> just plain wrong.   
      
   > Orwell was part of the left in the west.   
      
   Duh. And that is why Animal Farm wasn't just about Russia.   
      
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